"I can't Hate Donald Trump" - Page 10

henry quirk · 07-23-2016, 11:02 AM

Missed it...got caught up in playin' Lego Star Wars: The Force Awakens with the kid...from the snippets and analysis I've heard between then and now it seems I didn't mss much.

classicman · 07-23-2016, 11:04 AM

Well here it is if you want to watch and report back.
I'd be interested in your feedback.

henry quirk · 07-23-2016, 11:09 AM

I'll take a gander later today or tomorrow...bein' hounded by a ten year old right now.

tw · 07-25-2016, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henry quirk

I'll take a gander later today or tomorrow...bein' hounded by a ten year old right now.

Being stalked by a ten year old? Does he have a gun (real or virtual)?

henry quirk · 07-25-2016, 12:51 PM

Never got 'round to watchin' the video...the ten-year stalked me like a feral cat, shot me dead with his bb gun, and ate my heart.

The corpse of me read Trump's speech this morning.

Meh, boils down to this: 'This is what's wrong, this is who to blame, me and mine are gonna fix things up all spiffy-like'.

My crystal ball (which I just got back from the shop) sez Clinton's speech (usin' different words, you understand) will be the same.

She'll preach a bit on what a grand success Obama has been, of course, and promise to do an even more bang-up job, but -- mostly -- it'll be 'bad shit caused by bad guys which I'll clean up'.

Nuthin' nowhere from any one promisin' to leave me be.

henry quirk · 07-29-2016, 01:28 PM

Read the text of Mrs. Clinton's speech this morning.

What I came away with: 'I'm a better Republican than Donald Trump.'

henry quirk · 07-30-2016, 01:12 PM

Are there really that many middle-of-the road, undecided, folks to harvest?

BigV · 07-30-2016, 01:28 PM

there are, but they're unlikely to vote. I think there are a LOT of people whose level of engagement and interest/ability for critical thinking are insufficient to impel them to choose, to make the effort to have a preference. But this bar is much lower than actual voting, if you don't give a shit, you're not gonna vote either.

classicman · 07-31-2016, 07:54 AM

I'm one of those in the middle people and I'm invested enough in voting, but not for either of those two whorish hags the R's and D's have trotted out. I'll be supporting Gary Johnson.
As an aside - - - I'm shocked that no one seems to give a rats ass that the D's basically got caught colluding and fixing an election. What was the penalty for the architect? She got hired by the one who Orchestrated the whole thing. Next up? Perhaps running the Clinton Foundation.
Damn, but all the hypocrites that do nothing but point fingers at the other team are REALLY QUIET about this whole cheating thing.

Clodfobble · 07-31-2016, 08:55 AM

The thing is, this isn't an election year where you can cry hypocrisy, because no one's even pretending to be fair or balanced. The vast majority of Hillary supporters aren't really supporting Hillary, they're just terrified of Trump. And they recognize (correctly, I suspect) that any scandal against her works against their better interest. In a normal year, they'd quibble, "Ah, it's just Republican spin, it didn't really happen that way." This year, most would say, "Yeah, she totally stole the election. Doesn't matter; don't care."

Honestly, I wasn't terrified of him until he picked Pence. I had been suspecting this whole time that he was really the moderate-to-liberal douchebag he's always been (see: supporting Democrats in the past, blowing off the Evangelicals, calling for legalization of marijuana, etc.) and was waiting on his VP pick to prove that, especially considering that the VP will be running everything if he's elected (Trump admitted as much, though now that it looks bad he denies it, of course.)

With a VP I liked, I honestly would have voted for him, because I have major, major problems with Hillary. Now I'm up shit creek, praying that Hillary magically gets knocked out and Bernie somehow still comes from behind. Bernie's an idealist whose ideas are mostly ridiculous and could never be implemented, but I would expect Congress to prevent any from really passing. And I would hope the same would be true of Trump... but seeing how the Republicans have now fallen in line behind him, I don't think they would. And if Trump would pick Pence as VP, I am scared shitless of the Supreme Court nominations he'd make.

All of which is meaningless philosophical musing, because I live in a die-hard red state. Although with the Hispanic vote growing every year, they say Texas could become a swing state in another generation or so. But for now, my vote means nothing. I'll still do it, but it means nothing.

classicman · 07-31-2016, 08:28 PM

#FeeltheJohnson... Join Griff and I.
The lesser of two evils is still evil, or in this case a bloviating douchebag.

Happy Monkey · 08-01-2016, 09:33 PM

Trump talks the way Tina Fey parodied Sarah Palin.

Griff · 08-02-2016, 06:20 AM

He seems to be arguing with dead soldiers now. Normally I'd say game over but with Hillary on the other side... This has become the race to suppress your opponents vote totals.

henry quirk · 08-02-2016, 08:42 AM

"I'm shocked that no one seems to give a rats ass that the D's basically got caught colluding and fixing an election."

Lots of folks care, I think, but know nuthin' will come of it.

henry quirk · 08-02-2016, 09:49 AM

http://www.conservapedia.com/Randomocracy

Randomocracy is a theoretical form of government in which members of the government are chosen by random draft, instead of campaigning for office. It is based on Douglas Adams' famous comment that anyone who wants to wield power probably shouldn't be allowed to. It is similar to the system portrayed in "The Lottery in Babylon," by Jorge Luis Borges.

Positive aspects of Randomocracy
It will result in vastly greater representation among lower-class economic castes, as opposed to the current system, where everyone is represented by wealthy white male lawyers and bankers.
Possibly, legislation that is readable by humans will be passed.
Since nobody campaigns for office, the enormous expenditure of effort and money of political campaigns will be obsolete.

Common Criticisms of Randomocracy
With all legislators only serving a single term, accountability for bribery and corruption will be drastically reduced. With no need to campaign for reelection, legislators might accept bribes with both hands, since the primary pressure of accountability via ballots would be eliminated
Members of unpopular beliefs might be installed to office.

Me: not seein' any downside.

07-23-2016, 11:04 AM	#2
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Well here it is if you want to watch and report back. I'd be interested in your feedback. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

07-25-2016, 12:51 PM	#5
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	my half-assed anal-ysis Never got 'round to watchin' the video...the ten-year stalked me like a feral cat, shot me dead with his bb gun, and ate my heart. The corpse of me read Trump's speech this morning. Meh, boils down to this: 'This is what's wrong, this is who to blame, me and mine are gonna fix things up all spiffy-like'. My crystal ball (which I just got back from the shop) sez Clinton's speech (usin' different words, you understand) will be the same. She'll preach a bit on what a grand success Obama has been, of course, and promise to do an even more bang-up job, but -- mostly -- it'll be 'bad shit caused by bad guys which I'll clean up'. Nuthin' nowhere from any one promisin' to leave me be.

07-29-2016, 01:28 PM	#6
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	NOTA 2016! Read the text of Mrs. Clinton's speech this morning. What I came away with: 'I'm a better Republican than Donald Trump.'

07-30-2016, 01:28 PM	#8
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	there are, but they're unlikely to vote. I think there are a LOT of people whose level of engagement and interest/ability for critical thinking are insufficient to impel them to choose, to make the effort to have a preference. But this bar is much lower than actual voting, if you don't give a shit, you're not gonna vote either. __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

07-31-2016, 07:54 AM	#9
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I'm one of those in the middle people and I'm invested enough in voting, but not for either of those two whorish hags the R's and D's have trotted out. I'll be supporting Gary Johnson. As an aside - - - I'm shocked that no one seems to give a rats ass that the D's basically got caught colluding and fixing an election. What was the penalty for the architect? She got hired by the one who Orchestrated the whole thing. Next up? Perhaps running the Clinton Foundation. Damn, but all the hypocrites that do nothing but point fingers at the other team are REALLY QUIET about this whole cheating thing. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

07-23-2016, 11:02 AM	#1
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	Missed it...got caught up in playin' Lego Star Wars: The Force Awakens with the kid...from the snippets and analysis I've heard between then and now it seems I didn't mss much.

07-23-2016, 11:09 AM	#3
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	I'll take a gander later today or tomorrow...bein' hounded by a ten year old right now.

07-30-2016, 01:12 PM	#7
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	Are there really that many middle-of-the road, undecided, folks to harvest?

07-31-2016, 08:55 AM	#10
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	The thing is, this isn't an election year where you can cry hypocrisy, because no one's even pretending to be fair or balanced. The vast majority of Hillary supporters aren't really supporting Hillary, they're just terrified of Trump. And they recognize (correctly, I suspect) that any scandal against her works against their better interest. In a normal year, they'd quibble, "Ah, it's just Republican spin, it didn't really happen that way." This year, most would say, "Yeah, she totally stole the election. Doesn't matter; don't care." Honestly, I wasn't terrified of him until he picked Pence. I had been suspecting this whole time that he was really the moderate-to-liberal douchebag he's always been (see: supporting Democrats in the past, blowing off the Evangelicals, calling for legalization of marijuana, etc.) and was waiting on his VP pick to prove that, especially considering that the VP will be running everything if he's elected (Trump admitted as much, though now that it looks bad he denies it, of course.) With a VP I liked, I honestly would have voted for him, because I have major, major problems with Hillary. Now I'm up shit creek, praying that Hillary magically gets knocked out and Bernie somehow still comes from behind. Bernie's an idealist whose ideas are mostly ridiculous and could never be implemented, but I would expect Congress to prevent any from really passing. And I would hope the same would be true of Trump... but seeing how the Republicans have now fallen in line behind him, I don't think they would. And if Trump would pick Pence as VP, I am scared shitless of the Supreme Court nominations he'd make. All of which is meaningless philosophical musing, because I live in a die-hard red state. Although with the Hispanic vote growing every year, they say Texas could become a swing state in another generation or so. But for now, my vote means nothing. I'll still do it, but it means nothing. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

07-31-2016, 08:28 PM	#11
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	#FeeltheJohnson... Join Griff and I. The lesser of two evils is still evil, or in this case a bloviating douchebag. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

08-01-2016, 09:33 PM	#12
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Trump talks the way Tina Fey parodied Sarah Palin. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

08-02-2016, 06:20 AM	#13
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	He seems to be arguing with dead soldiers now. Normally I'd say game over but with Hillary on the other side... This has become the race to suppress your opponents vote totals. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

08-02-2016, 08:42 AM	#14
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	"I'm shocked that no one seems to give a rats ass that the D's basically got caught colluding and fixing an election." Lots of folks care, I think, but know nuthin' will come of it.

08-02-2016, 09:49 AM	#15
henry quirk maskless: yesterday, today, tomorrow Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,162	let's try this... http://www.conservapedia.com/Randomocracy Randomocracy is a theoretical form of government in which members of the government are chosen by random draft, instead of campaigning for office. It is based on Douglas Adams' famous comment that anyone who wants to wield power probably shouldn't be allowed to. It is similar to the system portrayed in "The Lottery in Babylon," by Jorge Luis Borges. Positive aspects of Randomocracy It will result in vastly greater representation among lower-class economic castes, as opposed to the current system, where everyone is represented by wealthy white male lawyers and bankers. Possibly, legislation that is readable by humans will be passed. Since nobody campaigns for office, the enormous expenditure of effort and money of political campaigns will be obsolete. Common Criticisms of Randomocracy With all legislators only serving a single term, accountability for bribery and corruption will be drastically reduced. With no need to campaign for reelection, legislators might accept bribes with both hands, since the primary pressure of accountability via ballots would be eliminated Members of unpopular beliefs might be installed to office. Me: not seein' any downside.

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