Creative Gun Control Proposal

[infinite monkey]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

All right, it's my turn to call you some names.

Sexobon, you are an insecure gun freak. It is better for you to stay away from everyone, because no one wants to be shot, accidentally or otherwise, by someone running around bragging about his guns and supposed special military knowledge.

At this point, it doesn't make a difference to me whether you are cordial or not. You seem to prefer to be a jackass, anyway.

Blue, you are good people. Let the ranting maniac be a ranting maniac. I love that it seems to be women who aren't afraid to call a jackass (read: troll) a jackass. Keep on keepin' on, sistuh.

Meanwhile, i can't wait to see the militia they'll need to bring in to guard the hundreds of entrances where i work. Or maybe they'll try to herd 25,000 folks in one or two doors. Sure, that's the solution.

Oh wait, our middle name is 'community' and we can't make access to education in any way more difficult...we're practically doing their homework for them as it is.

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by infinite monkey

Blue, you are good people. Let the ranting maniac be a ranting maniac. I love that it seems to be women who aren't afraid to call a jackass (read: troll) a jackass. Keep on keepin' on, sistuh.

Meanwhile, i can't wait to see the militia they'll need to bring in to guard the hundreds of entrances where i work. Or maybe they'll try to herd 25,000 folks in one or two doors. Sure, that's the solution.

Oh wait, our middle name is 'community' and we can't make access to education in any way more difficult...we're practically doing their homework for them as it is.

You're good people, too, monkey.

I hope you don't end up working in a fortress...

[Trilby]

ssshhhhhh! merc has been secretly replaced by sexobon - let's see if anyone notices!

btw, doing an ad hominem attack on a woman about her attractiveness/whorishness in an argument is like yelling Nazi.

You automatically lose. AND you get the 8th grade boys trophy for douche-bagness.


and I've seen your pic, sexobon. You're not much to look at, honey, so try to keep your mouth shut on that front. It'll just backfire on you. Like it did now.

[Nirvana]

No solutions yet, this is what I think

I've been giving the "gun ban law" some thought, and here it is: this person steals guns, (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), shoots and kills his own mother (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), transports these guns loaded (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), brings guns onto school property (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), breaks into the school (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), discharges the weapons within city limits (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), murders 26 people (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW), and commits suicide (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW).
And there are people in this country that somehow think passing another ANOTHER LAW banning guns would protect us from someone like this. If you haven't noticed, people like this are not concerned about breaking laws - they only care about fulfilling their own twisted agenda. The only people that a gun ban law would impact are the LAW ABIDING CITIZENS, which will only serve to cripple the ability to protect ourselves.

>going to hide behind my Detroit riot rifle bought in the 70's never used for anything really<

[xoxoxoBruce]

Speaking of existing laws, it's a federal offense to even try to buy a gun if you know you are not eligible. Yet of the hundreds of thousands (maybe millions) that have tried and been rejected, not one has ever been prosecuted.

tw asks...

Why do special forces have relevance?

Don't all posters, on any subject, post what's most relevant to their personal situation, what they're most familiar with?

Seems nobody has noticed before, that Sexobon is a most excellent shit stirrer when he wants to be. Probably too subtle, usually.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Nirvana

No solutions yet, this is what I think

Some people have and always will try to kill others. Some people will always be mentally unstable. Neither peers nor the system have or will identify many of these people.

So what has changed? One thing. Suddenly these people are equipped and encouraged to arm themselves with unrestricted access to military grade weapons.

Nobody was saying anything about a gun ban no matter how often extremists insist that is being promoted. Only change is the intensity of weapons that have no purpose but to hunt and kill people in mass numbers.

So far we have been lucky. Attacks even back to Columbine were with weapons and ammunition intended to kill over 100. In so many cases, only weapon failure resulted in so few deaths.

Need protection? A .22 was always sufficient. A Darringer was easily could ward off a threat. But that does not do enough damage to satisfy the emotional. They need NATO rounds, hollow point bullets, 50 caliber rifles, and 155 mm howitzers. And then need sandbags, bullet proof glass, security guards with armoured vests, unrestricted wiretapping, hate of immigrants, and fear. Because the solution is only more weapons and a bunker mentality.

After is, it was always about them verses us - according to those who subvert an honest discussion.

Details to undermine so much gun violence is simple if only adults using a prefrontal cortex are negotiating a solution. But today, with tea party, Rush Limbaugh, NRA, professional propaganda machines massacrading as think tanks, and even the Chamber of Commerce all now promoted extremist rhetoric to the emotional, then a logical (adult) discussion is impossible.

Step one to a solution is to first identify the problem. Problem is so many now armed with numerous military style weapons and ammunition. Even clips that carry 100 rounds. These were not readily available and encouraged 20 years ago. A problem not just apparent in the US. These 'big dic' concepts are the primary reason for so much recent violence in Mexico. Where same criminals were not a major problem until the US started arming them with NRA promoted "protection".

Eliminate the soundbytes. Then the problem is traceable to what weapons a civilian needs. Why do we know need weapons that only have one purpose - to hunt and masscre herds of people? That is the only thing that has changed.

[Nirvana]

Not an extremist > just saying

Clarification >I don't think anyone needs semi automatics or more than 10 rounds of ammo in a clip.

If you can't hit what you are aiming for with that number, you need target practice. Fuck whoever thinks they are going to rob me or my family or do us bodily harm in our own home. I don't mind my 8 shot limit, I think the hole would be the size of Texas...

[tw]

Originally Posted by Nirvana

Clarification >I don't think anyone needs semi automatics or more than 10 rounds of ammo in a clip.

And so you have what was good and sufficient 40 years ago when gun violence and massacres were not so routine. Your gun is good for hunting and for personal protection. Only wacko extremists say "liberals will ban shotguns". Only extremists say hunters need hollow point bullets and armour piecing rounds. Same people also say we need 100 round clips. Only wackos will advocate hand grenades, 100 round clips, and 155 mm howitzers to increase safety.

If a gun is illegal for hunting, then that gun is probably unacceptable even for personal protection. Nobody needs a gun designed only for hunting herds of people. But the NRA and its disciples say otherwise.

[bluecuracao]

A logical Sexobon (engaging the prefrontal cortex) will post a serious and detailed aplogoy to bluecuracao.

I agree, and I'm waiting for that apology.

[Nirvana]

I should say I live in the middle of nowhere 35 miles east of Gary IN and 16 miles north of one of the meth capitols in the US. The nearest police are 5 miles east but won't come here as they are city and I have to call county or state which would take 30 mins at least. I have had people/assholes come here shoot and gut my cattle before and then realize that they could not move a 1500 lb animal when it was dead. What if I would have walked up on them? Would they have shot me too? F that....

[classicman]

Nice Mossberg Nirvana.