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Old 11-24-2014, 11:20 AM   #1
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The repubicans love to waste tax payer money

http://www.gop.gov/solution_content/benghazi/
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Old 11-24-2014, 11:53 AM   #2
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The repubicans love to waste tax payer money

http://www.gop.gov/solution_content/benghazi/
And I suppose you think they wasted money on those 50+ times they TRIED to repeal ACA.
Or maybe with the money being spent trying to impeach the President.

They did and they are. :-)
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Old 11-24-2014, 09:25 PM   #3
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John Boehner will be appointing Trey Gowdy (R, SC) to head the investigation into Benghazi.

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By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Monday, November 24, 2014

Saying there are still “far too many questions” unanswered, House Speaker John A. Boehner reappointed Rep. Trey Gowdy Monday to lead his chamber’s inquiry into the Benghazi terrorist attacks just a few days after a House committee cleared the CIA of most wrongdoing, in a move that signaled the GOP is not satisfied with those conclusions.

“Two years later, the American people still have far too many questions about what happened that night — and why,” Mr. Boehner said in a statement, saying the Gowdy investigation will be the “definitive report” on the attack that left four Americans dead.
FFS.

Also:

Lindsay Graham still hasn't found what he's looking for.

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Sen. Lindsey Graham said Sunday that a report on the Benghazi attack released late last week is “full of crap.”

The GOP-led House committee’s report found no failures in intelligence in connection with the 2011 attack on the U.S. consulate in Libya and also found that any misinformation released after the attack was accidentally incorrect — not a deliberate attempt to mislead people.

But Mr. Graham, South Carolina Republican, said on CNN’s “State of the Union” that the report is inaccurate and that the House Intelligence Committee that released the report accepted a “bunch of garbage.”

“I’m saying the House Intelligence Committee is doing a lousy job policing their own,” he said.

He said the select committee lead by Rep. Trey Gowdy, South Carolina Republican, will get to the bottom of what really happened in the attack that killed four Americans.
What's happening with respect to Benghazi, at this point, is a smear campaign to impugn Hilary Clinton's name in advance of her possible presidential campaign. They just want to use it as a club to keep people distracted and uncertain and worried. What a load of fucking bullshit.
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Old 11-25-2014, 08:47 AM   #4
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There is a affliction among some South Carolinian children that manifests
as a speech defect wherein there is a transposition of "n's" and "z's".
Usually the children out-grow it, and their use of language becomes normal.
But it can carry over in some adults as a juvenile behavioral manifestation.

We have seen it on TV, as shown here...



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Old 12-16-2014, 07:53 PM   #5
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There is such a double standard with a lot of these posts. I guess you "I told you so" people on Benghazi were the same people who said this should have been over a long time ago. Yet, I guess, you all also think the "Senate" report on torture is somehow still relevant many years later. What a hatchet job! Let's face it there are idiots i.e. political opportunists on both sides. The Dems got their clocks cleaned in the last election and they will resort to anything to switch the attention back to Bush/Cheyney. Enjoy the next two years! You deserve it!
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:24 PM   #6
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We've had numerous reports about the "Benghazi incident" (tm). None of them turned up anything like the hoped-for scandal heavily promoted by Fox News and their ilk. Lots of looking, lots of investigation, and no evidence of wrongdoing.

The " "Senate" " (really? that needs ironic quotes? we're talking about the same Senate, right?) report on torture reveals new information, in stark contrast to the expected standard of behavior by the CIA. I don't see the double standard you're talking about.


Political opportunists on both sides? all sides. Hell yeah. But that should still not make a non-event worth worrying about (Benghazi) or excuse torture (CIA), regardless of the political motivations of the messenger.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:59 PM   #7
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How can anyone play the equivalency game with these two events? Oh yeah, Fox News. Nothing happened in Benghazi beyond a fuck up. American lowering its ethical standards to the level of say ISIS or North Vietnam, that is a goddamn news story.
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Old 12-16-2014, 10:58 PM   #8
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How can anyone play the equivalency game with these two events? Oh yeah, Fox News. Nothing happened in Benghazi beyond a fuck up. American lowering its ethical standards to the level of say ISIS or North Vietnam, that is a goddamn news story.
I guess the families' of the 4 USxKIA take comfort in knowing it was only a "fuck up".
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:03 PM   #9
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Would they feel better if it was a vast conspiracy?
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Old 12-16-2014, 11:05 PM   #10
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Would they feel better if it was a vast conspiracy?
No, but I don't take the murder of 4 Americans, including an ambassador, lightly.
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Old 12-17-2014, 05:58 AM   #11
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Neither does anyone else.

wiki's incomplete list- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks...tic_facilities
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Old 12-17-2014, 02:16 PM   #12
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No, but I don't take the murder of 4 Americans, including an ambassador, lightly.
People die in fuck-ups. Doesn't make it light.

It's Issa's circus that is treating it lightly.
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Old 12-18-2014, 06:52 AM   #13
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But that should still not make a non-event worth worrying about (Benghazi) .
Are you out of your fucking mind? Benghazi a non incident? The dfirst US Ambassador killed since the Peanut farmer was in office and thats a non-event to you? Srsly????
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Old 12-18-2014, 09:58 AM   #14
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In that context, I took the use of the term non-event to mean not a scandal (i.e. not an action or event regarded as morally or legally wrong) by the US government.

The government sends soldiers and diplomats into harm's way all the time. There are no guarantees of safety.

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Old 12-18-2014, 01:20 PM   #15
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There is such a double standard with a lot of these posts. I guess you "I told you so" people on Benghazi were the same people who said this should have been over a long time ago. Yet, I guess, you all also think the "Senate" report on torture is somehow still relevant many years later. What a hatchet job! Let's face it there are idiots i.e. political opportunists on both sides. The Dems got their clocks cleaned in the last election and they will resort to anything to switch the attention back to Bush/Cheyney. Enjoy the next two years! You deserve it!
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We've had numerous reports about the "Benghazi incident" (tm). None of them turned up anything like the hoped-for scandal heavily promoted by Fox News and their ilk. Lots of looking, lots of investigation, and no evidence of wrongdoing.

The " "Senate" " (really? that needs ironic quotes? we're talking about the same Senate, right?) report on torture reveals new information, in stark contrast to the expected standard of behavior by the CIA. I don't see the double standard you're talking about.


Political opportunists on both sides? all sides. Hell yeah. But that should still not make a non-event worth worrying about (Benghazi) or excuse torture (CIA), regardless of the political motivations of the messenger.
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In that context, I took the use of the term non-event to mean not a scandal (i.e. not an action or event regarded as morally or legally wrong) by the US government.

The government sends soldiers and diplomats into harm's way all the time. There are no guarantees of safety.
sexobon's understanding of my meaning is precisely correct. well put, sexobon, thanks.

We've been talking about the relative scandalousness of these two events. One's been the subject of considerable investigation and no vast conspiracy uncovered. The other has had less investigation, but alarming evidence of wrongdoing has been found. That's the difference.
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