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02-23-2011, 05:25 PM | #2 | ||
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02-23-2011, 09:52 PM | #3 |
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Ah, but union political contributions ... those are as pure as the driven snow, right?
Do you really think a conversation between the union bosses and the dem representatives would be much different?
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02-24-2011, 10:45 AM | #5 |
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02-24-2011, 11:44 AM | #6 |
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This is issue is just stupid. I've listened to both sides and have come to the conclusion that if everyone just stopped yelling and attacking each other they will realize that they could easily come to an agreement.
All the teachers I've talked too said they are willing to give up pay and benefits as long as they keep collective bargaining. Maybe I've missed something but I thought republicans were (more or less) for less government spending and less government control (getting rid of collective bargaining gives the government more control). Both sides seem too busy convinced the other is out to screw them over to listen to each other. Scott Walker, and others, are just trying to make a statement by holding their ground and Wisconsin education will suffer.
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02-24-2011, 11:47 AM | #7 |
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Nope. It's that thing you hear about, "Hypocrisy".
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02-24-2011, 12:12 PM | #8 |
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They are more against unions than they are against "government control". And they aren't against "government control", they are against Democrats. Unions tend to support Democrats, except for police and firefighters, which he exempted. But they recognized that union-busting damages them, even if not (for now) aimed at them, so they're supporting the protests.
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02-24-2011, 06:46 PM | #9 |
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The unions made themselves political. Now, they're fair game for politics.
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02-24-2011, 11:46 PM | #10 |
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This Wisconcin Governor wants to destroy all unions except three. Exempt from his bills are three unions who endorsed him for Governor. This is not what an honest leader does. This is a classic example of self serving corruption by the Governor.
His bills are examples of a politican working for a poltiical agenda and his own glory. Not working for his state and citizens. If he really wanted to after the problem, then previous politicians who gave away the state would be forced to pay for all their mismanagement. And put before the national press to apologize for being so corrupt. We don't hold the actual criminals to task. Because spread sheets are only reporting ten years later what those previous governors and WI State Congressmen did. |
02-25-2011, 02:47 PM | #11 |
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02-25-2011, 03:37 PM | #12 |
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Classicman is a union supporter?
As your friend Uday understand it, moral relativism is define as: "moral relativism is the meta-ethical position that the truth or falsity of moral judgments is not objective." So is okay or not so bad for Governor Walker to be a crook, because unions are also crook. So it is a matter of what side you are on, not anything to do with principles? Last edited by Uday; 02-25-2011 at 03:37 PM. Reason: spelling |
02-25-2011, 05:51 PM | #13 |
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Nope, both are wrong. It's hypocrisy to only point out the wrongness of the other side.
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02-25-2011, 05:59 PM | #14 |
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02-25-2011, 08:53 PM | #15 |
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KOCH!
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