Rims

[Griff]

Nonetheless a beautiful machine.

[Undertoad]

Originally Posted by Griff

A book which I've never heard of.

you will, it's currently #1 on the Times paperback nonfiction list

[Griff]

I see these kinds of books as a poor mirror of reality. Thoughts about race will ebb and flow. My throw away impression will or will not be part of the long game. I don't see the point of torturing ourselves over the evolution of ideas. That sort of fuckery largely stays on the campus where they think they lead, while a middle way is generally sought by society and industry. The Golden Rule will win out as we figure out how we'd like to be treated. My instinct is that over-intellectualizing the process gives cover to haters of all stripes. /too much drift?

[xoxoxoBruce]

White Fragility: Why It's So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism

Because nobody talks, they either want to attack with all sorts of off the wall generalizations or rediculous personal accusations. On the other side, sick of defending themselves from the ridiculous bullshit charges of being the problem.

Since when does a book on the NYT best seller list represent more than the authors opinion, and maybe half the people who read it.

In a 2019 nationwide survey, 86% of white evangelical Protestants and 70% of both white mainline Protestants and white Catholics said that the “Confederate flag is more a symbol of Southern pride than of racism”.

Nearly 66% of white Christians over all said that killings of African-American men by the police are isolated incidents rather than part of a broader pattern of mistreatment.

Over 60% white Christians disagreed with the statement that “generations of slavery and discrimination have created conditions that make it difficult for blacks to work their way out of the lower class.”

Don't equate ignorance with evil intent.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by Griff

A book which I've never heard of.

A book of which you've never heard.

God, you hillbiffies. Pfft.

[sexobon]

The real question is: Is it ethical to carry on a discussion about racism, in the "Rims" thread, behind tw's back where he might not notice the opportunity to jump in and blame Trump for all of the world's ills? See, this is the kind of treachery that develops when you don't have new taglines.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Terrorist sized wagon...

[Griff]

Originally Posted by sexobon

The real question is: Is it ethical to carry on a discussion about racism, in the "Rims" thread, behind tw's back where he might not notice the opportunity to jump in and blame Trump for all of the world's ills? See, this is the kind of treachery that develops when you don't have new taglines.

Shhhhh... the walls have ears.

You could get a helluva load of bin Ladens in that thing.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by Griff

Nonetheless a beautiful machine.

Was. And tis.

Originally Posted by sexobon

The real question is: Is it ethical to carry on a discussion about racism, in the "Rims" thread, behind tw's back where he might not notice the opportunity to jump in and blame Trump for all of the world's ills? See, this is the kind of treachery that develops when you don't have new taglines.

For the love of God, people, won't somebody think of TW?!

[Carruthers]

Originally Posted by Griff

A book which I've never heard of.

Originally Posted by Gravdigr

A book of which you've never heard.

God, you hillbiffies. Pfft.

Exactly Mr G.

Sloppy English is something up with which you should not put.

[Griff]

To be fair I'm merican no englisher

[Carruthers]

Originally Posted by Griff

To be fair I'm merican no englisher

[Undertoad]

Is it ethical to carry on a discussion about racism, in the "Rims" thread

Combine the topics

[xoxoxoBruce]

And no more Yellow Cabs unless they come from Asia.

[Undertoad]

i'm not interested in pursuing it with you