Aug 11, 2010: Wheelchair Ramps

xoxoxoBruce · 08-11-2010, 12:37 AM

Wheelchair ramps became the law here in the US, I would guess with the Americans with Disabilities Act, 20 years ago. But that didn't suddenly cause ramps to spring up like mushrooms, quite often they weren't required until some change was made requiring a building (remodeling) permit. Lately we've seen tons of curb cuts at intersections being made, with federal economic recovery funds.

But some people are bitter about having to do it...

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And some people are sadistic...

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Bullitt · 08-11-2010, 12:51 AM

Cue rkzenrage to show up from ban-hammer land and make a huge, rant-filled post.

xoxoxoBruce · 08-11-2010, 12:59 AM

He came down on this issue several times... on both sides.

wolf · 08-11-2010, 01:33 AM

Although nowhere near as wicked as the two last examples, the ramp at the nuthouse is built at a much steeper grade than it should be. I've had to shove a number of wheelchair bound visitors and patients up it, as well as warning them about the possibility of wiping out at the bottom.

I must admit that I have watched the wheelchair start of the Boston Marathon for the pileups.

Lamplighter · 08-11-2010, 02:14 AM

Most of the links are terrible insults, but this one from the same (lower right) link looks like someone actually tried to do some good design work...

Griff · 08-11-2010, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bullitt

Cue rkzenrage to show up from ban-hammer land and make a huge, rant-filled post.

He missed that whole "reasonable accommodation" thing.

Happy Monkey · 08-11-2010, 07:34 AM

It looks to me like photo 2 is on a beach that has eroded away.

Gravdigr · 08-11-2010, 08:20 AM

If Evel Knieval was still alive, he would jump all of those ramps with a Harley powered wheel chair.

Adak · 08-11-2010, 09:25 AM

I would walk up the wheelchair ramp part of the steps Lamplighter posted the picture of, just to feel inspired by the great design it has.

Well done!

I don't see how those ramps with the steep angles, ever got approved. That's a hell of a big lawsuit, just waiting for the first wheelchair victim.

Spexxvet · 08-11-2010, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Adak

I don't see how those ramps with the steep angles, ever got approved. That's a hell of a big lawsuit, just waiting for the first wheelchair victim.

Hopefully the first victim is the person who approved/designed/built it.

Rhianne · 08-11-2010, 09:51 AM

Words fail me. It's hard to believe that not one person in the chain from conception to execution thought to say, 'no, this is just ridiculous'. I often have to manoeuver my partner's chair through some awkward routes but no way would I, or anyone else I suspect, ever go near either of those bottom two.

classicman · 08-11-2010, 10:12 AM

Agreed. Having some experience as well, I'm completely shocked that either one ever got built. There is no way anyone with a wheelchair is going to make it up something that steep. Maneuvering down either of those is even more frightening to think about.

Adak - totally agree!

Clodfobble · 08-11-2010, 10:45 AM

It's not about people actually traversing them. It's about retro-fitting an existing establishment with the minimum requirements so that a lawyer can't sue them into bankruptcy for not meeting ADA guidelines. The people setting these things up aren't patting themselves on the back for being helpful to the disabled, they're grumbling the whole way about the stupidity of having to adapt places that are basically impossible to adapt without a complete tear-down.

classicman · 08-11-2010, 10:57 AM

I didn't know the ADA was also in Russia :P:

Happy Monkey · 08-11-2010, 11:31 AM

The comments in the link question whether some of these are actually wheelchair ramps.

08-11-2010, 12:37 AM	#1
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Aug 11, 2010: Wheelchair Ramps Wheelchair ramps became the law here in the US, I would guess with the Americans with Disabilities Act, 20 years ago. But that didn't suddenly cause ramps to spring up like mushrooms, quite often they weren't required until some change was made requiring a building (remodeling) permit. Lately we've seen tons of curb cuts at intersections being made, with federal economic recovery funds. But some people are bitter about having to do it... Photo credit..................................................................Photo credit And some people are sadistic... Photo credit.............................................................Photo credit & more pics link __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-11-2010, 12:51 AM	#2
Bullitt This is a fully functional babe lair Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Akron, OH Posts: 2,324	Cue rkzenrage to show up from ban-hammer land and make a huge, rant-filled post. __________________ Kiss my white Irish ass.

08-11-2010, 12:59 AM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	He came down on this issue several times... on both sides. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

08-11-2010, 01:33 AM	#4
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Although nowhere near as wicked as the two last examples, the ramp at the nuthouse is built at a much steeper grade than it should be. I've had to shove a number of wheelchair bound visitors and patients up it, as well as warning them about the possibility of wiping out at the bottom. I must admit that I have watched the wheelchair start of the Boston Marathon for the pileups. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

08-11-2010, 02:14 AM	#5
Lamplighter Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Bottom lands of the Missoula floods Posts: 6,402	Most of the links are terrible insults, but this one from the same (lower right) link looks like someone actually tried to do some good design work... Attached Images

08-11-2010, 07:34 AM	#7
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	It looks to me like photo 2 is on a beach that has eroded away. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

08-11-2010, 08:20 AM	#8
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	If Evel Knieval was still alive, he would jump all of those ramps with a Harley powered wheel chair. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

08-11-2010, 09:25 AM	#9
Adak Lecturer Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 796	I would walk up the wheelchair ramp part of the steps Lamplighter posted the picture of, just to feel inspired by the great design it has. Well done! I don't see how those ramps with the steep angles, ever got approved. That's a hell of a big lawsuit, just waiting for the first wheelchair victim.

08-11-2010, 09:51 AM	#11
Rhianne Nearly done. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Teetering on the edge. Posts: 1,134	Words fail me. It's hard to believe that not one person in the chain from conception to execution thought to say, 'no, this is just ridiculous'. I often have to manoeuver my partner's chair through some awkward routes but no way would I, or anyone else I suspect, ever go near either of those bottom two.

08-11-2010, 10:12 AM	#12
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Agreed. Having some experience as well, I'm completely shocked that either one ever got built. There is no way anyone with a wheelchair is going to make it up something that steep. Maneuvering down either of those is even more frightening to think about. Adak - totally agree! __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

08-11-2010, 10:45 AM	#13
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	It's not about people actually traversing them. It's about retro-fitting an existing establishment with the minimum requirements so that a lawyer can't sue them into bankruptcy for not meeting ADA guidelines. The people setting these things up aren't patting themselves on the back for being helpful to the disabled, they're grumbling the whole way about the stupidity of having to adapt places that are basically impossible to adapt without a complete tear-down. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

08-11-2010, 10:57 AM	#14
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I didn't know the ADA was also in Russia :P: __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

08-11-2010, 11:31 AM	#15
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	The comments in the link question whether some of these are actually wheelchair ramps. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

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