Hollywood Indirect Racism

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Meanwhile, the bad guy (second photo) is Indian, the chick is Russian, and the best friend is white.

Dass waisis.

If your statement is valid...America = white.

[freshnesschronic]

Clodfobble, this is besides the point. This is an Asian cultured film (the setting is the East), so what if illustration didn't make them all chinky-eyed and buck teeth, prominent "Asian" features. Who says they aren't Asian, are you the judge of that?

The racism debate with casting is on the news, which somewhat comforts me that some people can be educated about it..and it's sad that those with ties in Hollywood are trying to dodge the question (as I jjust saw someone skirt the subject when it came up on a TV show), as they have no good answer.

[lookout123]

Clodfobbble, your powerful application of fact and logic are useless here.

[freshnesschronic]

Please read the article before commenting lookout.

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

Please read the article before commenting lookout.

I did. Anything else? Maybe I should take a racial sensitivity course before looking at your threads?

or you could just learn you can go through your whole life being offended if you don't develop a thicker skin.

[jinx]

I can only imagine how many disappointed Asian American children will flock to the theaters only to see that their animated heroes are now depicted by White actors who could never truly empathize with their distinct Asian cultural roots.

[freshnesschronic]

Originally Posted by lookout123

I did. Anything else? Maybe I should take a racial sensitivity course before looking at your threads?

or you could just learn you can go through your whole life being offended if you don't develop a thicker skin.

So I should just bow down to the man clod? That's my thicker skin? I live in a white world everyday and accept it. So I cant have this opinion? Sorry for bringing this issue to light for you. Just ignore it and it'll go away for you.

[lookout123]

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

I live in a white world everyday and accept it. So I cant have this opinion?

Bullshit. You live in a world full of people. So while you mope around in a "my sociology professor says I'm oppressed" kind of way don't be surprised when you don't get a lot of sympathy. It is bullshit, plain and simple. There is not one opportunity you don't have that is available to the cracker sitting next to you. That was, unfortunately, not always true but the country has and is changing and you need to quit looking for ways to be a victim.

Sorry for bringing this issue to light for you. Just ignore it and it'll go away for you.

What issue? Some nerds liked a cartoon made in america using some chinese symbols and imagery that was successful enough that a hollywood studio decided to make a movie based on it. They cast the actors they thought, rightly or wrongly, would make the movie most successful. Some nerds who liked the cartoon are upset because... the non-asian cartoon characters were played by non-asian actors? Not much of an issue unless you're just looking for a way to be offended.

[Ibby]

So, the american cartoon with non-ethnically-featured art (because come on, not a single one of those characters could possibly be ethnically categorized based on appearance) was made into a movie where... none of the actors' races were taken into account when they were cast? EGADS.

i mean, i don't know what's up with that movie that they made about Hachiko (a Japanese story about a loyal dog) starring Richard Gere, and it's dumb as hell that "Prince of Persia" only has one actual Persian in it, but this is even LESS blame-worthy than that. The characters in the cartoon don't look Asian - and the actors in the movie don't look Asian ('cause they aren't). I fail to see the BFD.

[Undertoad]

Hollywood is a fuck. Most movies suck. They are not about real life.

[Clodfobble]

Dude, Gravdigr--what? You made the point that "a movie filmed in Russia, by a Russian studio...will contain predominantly... Russian actors." Your implication is that because the Airbender movie was made in America, we should expect that it will contain American actors, and by extension, Fresh can't complain there are no Asians in it. Your point was clearly that Asians aren't Americans. While I suppose this is true if you're holding strictly to a definition by nationality, the whole point of the thread is "Asian" as a race; i.e., should the studio have cast Asian-Americans?

My point was that contrary to popular complaints, they didn't cast all white actors, they cast a variety of American actors who, while not Asian-American, do in fact look like their animated counterparts, regardless of backstory.

Originally Posted by freshnesschronic

This is an Asian cultured film (the setting is the East), so what if illustration didn't make them all chinky-eyed and buck teeth, prominent "Asian" features.

I guess that must describe what they do in all those manga and anime you read with "'Asian' features in the Japanese illustrations?" Or would it maybe have been possible for the animated characters to look Asian without looking sterotypical? The actors match the animations. If you have a problem with the actors, then it's hypocritical not to have a problem with the original animated characters.

[Gravdigr]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

Dude, Gravdigr--what? You made the point that "a movie filmed in Russia, by a Russian studio...will contain predominantly... Russian actors." Your implication is that because the Airbender movie was made in America, we should expect that it will contain American actors, and by extension, Fresh can't complain there are no Asians in it. Your point was clearly that Asians aren't Americans. While I suppose this is true if you're holding strictly to a definition by nationality, the whole point of the thread is "Asian" as a race; i.e., should the studio have cast Asian-Americans?

My point was that contrary to popular complaints, they didn't cast all white actors, they cast a variety of American actors who, while not Asian-American, do in fact look like their animated counterparts, regardless of backstory.



I guess that must describe what they do in all those manga and anime you read with "'Asian' features in the Japanese illustrations?" Or would it maybe have been possible for the animated characters to look Asian without looking sterotypical? The actors match the animations. If you have a problem with the actors, then it's hypocritical not to have a problem with the original animated characters.

You should work at the Pentagon. If you can get that out of what I said, you should be deciphering the most complicated codes on the planet. I can't for the life of me guess how you translated what I said into that.

Please stop calling me a racist. And, please stop twisting what I say into racism. I'm asking you nicely.

[toranokaze]

The main char. I think is supposed to be Chinese but the other two supporting are supposed to be Eskimos or something like that.

[Ibby]

Having, y'know, been to Tibet (which is where the main character looks like he was stylistically modeled after), I can say that, at least personally, I completely buy the actor who plays the main character, in that role.

[lookout123]

Yeah, but you're a racist.