What did you make today? - Page 30

Griff · 03-19-2014, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

She bee a keeper.

Cute.

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Originally Posted by glatt

Those look great!

Thanks lads, I'll pass on the compliments.

Clodfobble · 03-19-2014, 09:33 PM

So hang on, are those things going to be living in the basement? Or do bees hibernate in their hives while they're covered in snow?

Griff · 03-19-2014, 09:47 PM

Outside! They winter over on honey. They clump together and regulate hive temperature in the winter.

orthodoc · 03-19-2014, 09:55 PM

So ... what are the requirements for hives? I don't see many entrance/exit points in your pics. Do the bees just need an entrance/exit at the bottom and top? What was the inner structure? I could google everything but I'd rather ask you. I'm hoping to entice bees/start beekeeping once I move home in late June. Would you be willing to share a few more details?

Griff · 03-20-2014, 06:59 AM

The most commonly used hive is a Langdtroth. They go in and out the bottom. There are frames (Pete is still building those) inside the boxes where the bees, build comb, lay larvae, and store honey. There is a lot going on in there. You really need to find a mentor and/or read a lot to learn the process.

If you just want pollinators there are simple nests you can build for orchard? bees which is another way to go. There is a bee keeping subreddit if you want to follow the trials and tribulations of others.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-24-2014, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Griff

There are frames (Pete is still building those) inside the boxes where the bees, build comb, lay larvae, and store honey.

footfootfoot · 03-20-2014, 08:23 AM

You got to fight the powerful Bee!

glatt · 03-20-2014, 08:31 AM

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Clodfobble · 03-20-2014, 09:57 AM

It's good to bee the king.

glatt · 03-20-2014, 10:12 AM

Back to the hive design, it's really cool to me that the bees are steered into making their honeycombs within the frames. They don't cross the gap that's a fraction of an inch wide, they stay on the frame and fill that vast open space inside the frame. It's really a brilliant design that takes into account how the bees build honeycomb.

nowhereman · 03-20-2014, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

Back to the hive design, it's really cool to me that the bees are steered into making their honeycombs within the frames. They don't cross the gap that's a fraction of an inch wide, they stay on the frame and fill that vast open space inside the frame. It's really a brilliant design that takes into account how the bees build honeycomb.

That's what Rev. L.L.Langstroth discovered from observing natural combs - the "bee space", which is typically 3/8". He then designed the hive bodies and frames around that dimension. Previously to that, bees were kept in skeps - conical basket-type hives, but to harvest the honey, the combs had to be cut out and crushed. His system allowed beekeepers to slice off the wax cappings of the frames and spin the honey out with an extractor. The Dadant and A.I. Root families manufactured his designs (and made a lot of money), but were very good to him, making sure he had money when he needed it. It is believed that he was bi-polar.
Nice job on the hives ! Good luck with your bees.

xoxoxoBruce · 03-20-2014, 04:07 PM

You can buy pre-made wax combs to speed up the settling of a swarm in a new hive.

footfootfoot · 03-20-2014, 01:17 PM

WITHIN NATURE’S INTRICATE WEB OF CHECKS AND BALANCES … THERE IS A PLACE FOR ‘PAY BACK’.

These too are honeybees. they made their hive in a hollow tree.

they too are caring for their young.

but these are native japanese honeybees. and they are not quite as defenseless as their european cousins.

THEY haVE EVOLVED A SECRET WEAPON AGAINST THE GIANT HORNET.

one they may meet often in this deadly season.

this hornet is the advanced guard of an attack force the bees could never withstand.

but this time THE BEES SET A trap. they want the hornet inside. and the hornet obliges.

The SCOUTs main task IS TO MARK THE SPOT WITH A telltale pheromone … SO THAT her sisters CAN FIND IT LATER.

But the native honeybees know her game.

By swinging their abdomens to and fro they signal their strategy to one another.

the bees hold off until the last possible moment. and then, as if of one mind, they swarm.

the hornet is engulfed by hundreds of bees.

but they don’t sting the intruder. instead, as revealed by thermal photography, they all begin to vibrate, gradually raising their collective temperature to 117 degrees Fahrenheit.

Japanese honeybees can tolerate a temperature of 118 degrees.

Their victim's upper limit is 115. The hornet scout is slowly roasted alive.

And the secret of the honeybees' location dies with her

http://video.nationalgeographic.com/...bees_vs_hornet

nowhereman · 03-20-2014, 05:05 PM

I have switched over to wooden frames with black plastic foundation for the brood boxes (easier to see eggs), and the natural color for the honey supers. The bees draw these out very well. Mann Lake has assembled frames in all sizes for a good price - http://www.mannlakeltd.com/beekeepin...ry/page17.html. Easier than putting together large amounts of frames and mounting and wiring foundation. IMHO

Griff · 03-20-2014, 08:43 PM

Thanks!

03-19-2014, 09:33 PM	#2
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03-19-2014, 09:47 PM	#3
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Outside! They winter over on honey. They clump together and regulate hive temperature in the winter. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-19-2014, 09:55 PM	#4
orthodoc Not Suspicious, Merely Canadian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,774	So ... what are the requirements for hives? I don't see many entrance/exit points in your pics. Do the bees just need an entrance/exit at the bottom and top? What was the inner structure? I could google everything but I'd rather ask you. I'm hoping to entice bees/start beekeeping once I move home in late June. Would you be willing to share a few more details? __________________ The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated. - Ghandi

03-20-2014, 06:59 AM	#5
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	The most commonly used hive is a Langdtroth. They go in and out the bottom. There are frames (Pete is still building those) inside the boxes where the bees, build comb, lay larvae, and store honey. There is a lot going on in there. You really need to find a mentor and/or read a lot to learn the process. If you just want pollinators there are simple nests you can build for orchard? bees which is another way to go. There is a bee keeping subreddit if you want to follow the trials and tribulations of others. Attached Images __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

03-20-2014, 08:23 AM	#7
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	You got to fight the powerful Bee! __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

03-20-2014, 08:31 AM	#8
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03-20-2014, 09:57 AM	#9
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	It's good to bee the king. __________________ My book My other book My spirit animal

03-20-2014, 10:12 AM	#10
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Back to the hive design, it's really cool to me that the bees are steered into making their honeycombs within the frames. They don't cross the gap that's a fraction of an inch wide, they stay on the frame and fill that vast open space inside the frame. It's really a brilliant design that takes into account how the bees build honeycomb.

03-20-2014, 04:07 PM	#12
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	You can buy pre-made wax combs to speed up the settling of a swarm in a new hive. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

03-20-2014, 01:17 PM	#13
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	WITHIN NATURE’S INTRICATE WEB OF CHECKS AND BALANCES … THERE IS A PLACE FOR ‘PAY BACK’. These too are honeybees. they made their hive in a hollow tree. they too are caring for their young. but these are native japanese honeybees. and they are not quite as defenseless as their european cousins. THEY haVE EVOLVED A SECRET WEAPON AGAINST THE GIANT HORNET. one they may meet often in this deadly season. this hornet is the advanced guard of an attack force the bees could never withstand. but this time THE BEES SET A trap. they want the hornet inside. and the hornet obliges. The SCOUTs main task IS TO MARK THE SPOT WITH A telltale pheromone … SO THAT her sisters CAN FIND IT LATER. But the native honeybees know her game. By swinging their abdomens to and fro they signal their strategy to one another. the bees hold off until the last possible moment. and then, as if of one mind, they swarm. the hornet is engulfed by hundreds of bees. but they don’t sting the intruder. instead, as revealed by thermal photography, they all begin to vibrate, gradually raising their collective temperature to 117 degrees Fahrenheit. Japanese honeybees can tolerate a temperature of 118 degrees. Their victim's upper limit is 115. The hornet scout is slowly roasted alive. And the secret of the honeybees' location dies with her http://video.nationalgeographic.com/...bees_vs_hornet __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

03-20-2014, 05:05 PM	#14
nowhereman sliding down the razor blade of life Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: just over the edge Posts: 228	I have switched over to wooden frames with black plastic foundation for the brood boxes (easier to see eggs), and the natural color for the honey supers. The bees draw these out very well. Mann Lake has assembled frames in all sizes for a good price - http://www.mannlakeltd.com/beekeepin...ry/page17.html. Easier than putting together large amounts of frames and mounting and wiring foundation. IMHO

03-20-2014, 08:43 PM	#15
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	Thanks! __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

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