Cool Weapons - Page 8

Big Sarge · 02-13-2010, 02:42 PM

Rich - you can own a 20mm or even a howitzer as long as you have the Destructive Device tax stamp which comes after a rigorous background check & local law enforcement approval. The 20mm Vulcan ammo is $9.50 for training ammo & $15.00 per tracer. If you handload, you can bring it down to around $5.00

Some people question why someone needs one. The same can be said for a Ferrari. LOL

richlevy · 02-13-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge

local law enforcement approval.

That's an interesting loophole. So someone could get approval from the sheriff's department in Backwoods, Arkansas to purchase it and then move to Philadelphia. As long as the buyer doesn't act as a straw purchaser and sell to someone else, is there anything the cops in Philly can do to keep a cannon out of their neighborhood?

xoxoxoBruce · 02-13-2010, 03:26 PM

Why, do you think someone is going to do that to shoot their neighbor, or rob a Wawa, when it's much easier to just use a shotgun/pistol?

Big Sarge · 02-13-2010, 05:52 PM

No loophole. I didn't make myself clear. You Tax Stamp for the weapon is issued by the Treasury Department after the backgroundinvestigation and approval by the ATF. The local law enforcement approval is in addition to the Federal approval. You cannot transfer the weapon to another individual without going through a specially licensed dealer and the new owner going through the same process.

People who own these weapons have been vigorously cleared and the weapons are closely tracked. I have never heard of a legally owned NFA weapon being used in a crime.

ZenGum · 02-13-2010, 06:19 PM

Well, it'd be hard to hide under your coat.

I think the question was not about selling the weapon on to someone else, but the same owner moving to the jurisdiction of a different local law enforcer - do they have to get approval from their new local authority, or does the old approval transfer?

Just curious - suppose you do get one of these monsters ... then what? I could imagine a few fun afternoons blowing shit away on a firing range, but aside from a rather expensive kind of fun, what else could you do with it?

xoxoxoBruce · 02-13-2010, 06:26 PM

Why collect cars you can't drive? Why collect teapots you can't make tea in?

ZenGum · 02-14-2010, 03:41 AM

I did think of one use ... you know the eccentric English gentleman who built a giant trebuchet which hurls burning pianos?

Skeet shooting.

Burning piano. Giant gun. Boom.
Okay, now I understand.

Big Sarge · 02-14-2010, 08:46 AM

Ok. My misunderstanding. To travel with any National Firearm Act weapon or even to move your residence to another state, you must have prior approval by the ATF (BATFE).

These large bore weapons are used in long range competitions. There is also a big machinegun/cannon shoot every year in KY. Like I mentioned earlier, a primary reason for owning these is the investment value.

xoxoxoBruce · 02-14-2010, 09:02 AM

Nonsense, the primary reason is boner value.

Gravdigr · 02-15-2010, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Sarge

There is also a big machinegun/cannon shoot every year in KY.

That would be the Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot in West Point, KY.

Here ya go...

Gravdigr · 02-15-2010, 10:02 AM

These are actually worse than those other (big) guns. Since it's black powder, almost ANYONE can pack this almost ANYWHERE. Legally. This one is in .45.

Spexxvet · 02-15-2010, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravdigr

These are actually worse than those other (big) guns. Since it's black powder, almost ANYONE can pack this almost ANYWHERE. Legally. This one is in .45.

"Pack it" as in carry it? Concealed-like?

Gravdigr · 02-16-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Spexxvet

"Pack it" as in carry it? Concealed-like?

I don't know about concealed. But, my federal probation officer said black powder weapons are OK for me to 'carry' and possess. If concealed, it may qualify as a 'concealed deadly weapon', like a knife in a belt sheath under you shirt-tail. The knife itself may be legal, concealing it will get you a room at the Graybar Hilton.

As a side note, I live in Kentucky. Here, if you are not a felon, you can carry a pistol on your hip (as long as it's not concealed) with no license or permit required. Called 'Open Carry', I believe.

Datalyss · 02-14-2010, 02:49 PM

Are our soldiers becoming borg?

Future Weapons - Soldier of the future

classicman · 02-14-2010, 04:23 PM

Thats nice stuff.

02-13-2010, 02:42 PM	#1
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	Rich - you can own a 20mm or even a howitzer as long as you have the Destructive Device tax stamp which comes after a rigorous background check & local law enforcement approval. The 20mm Vulcan ammo is $9.50 for training ammo & $15.00 per tracer. If you handload, you can bring it down to around $5.00 Some people question why someone needs one. The same can be said for a Ferrari. LOL __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

02-13-2010, 03:26 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Why, do you think someone is going to do that to shoot their neighbor, or rob a Wawa, when it's much easier to just use a shotgun/pistol? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-13-2010, 05:52 PM	#4
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	No loophole. I didn't make myself clear. You Tax Stamp for the weapon is issued by the Treasury Department after the backgroundinvestigation and approval by the ATF. The local law enforcement approval is in addition to the Federal approval. You cannot transfer the weapon to another individual without going through a specially licensed dealer and the new owner going through the same process. People who own these weapons have been vigorously cleared and the weapons are closely tracked. I have never heard of a legally owned NFA weapon being used in a crime. __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

02-13-2010, 06:19 PM	#5
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	Well, it'd be hard to hide under your coat. I think the question was not about selling the weapon on to someone else, but the same owner moving to the jurisdiction of a different local law enforcer - do they have to get approval from their new local authority, or does the old approval transfer? Just curious - suppose you do get one of these monsters ... then what? I could imagine a few fun afternoons blowing shit away on a firing range, but aside from a rather expensive kind of fun, what else could you do with it? __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

02-13-2010, 06:26 PM	#6
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Why collect cars you can't drive? Why collect teapots you can't make tea in? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-14-2010, 03:41 AM	#7
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	I did think of one use ... you know the eccentric English gentleman who built a giant trebuchet which hurls burning pianos? Skeet shooting. Burning piano. Giant gun. Boom. Okay, now I understand. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

02-14-2010, 08:46 AM	#8
Big Sarge Werepandas - lurking in your shadows Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: In the Deep South Posts: 3,408	Ok. My misunderstanding. To travel with any National Firearm Act weapon or even to move your residence to another state, you must have prior approval by the ATF (BATFE). These large bore weapons are used in long range competitions. There is also a big machinegun/cannon shoot every year in KY. Like I mentioned earlier, a primary reason for owning these is the investment value. __________________ Give a man a match, & he'll be warm for 20 seconds. But toss that man a white phosphorus grenade and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

02-14-2010, 09:02 AM	#9
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Nonsense, the primary reason is boner value. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

02-15-2010, 10:02 AM	#11
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	These are actually worse than those other (big) guns. Since it's black powder, almost ANYONE can pack this almost ANYWHERE. Legally. This one is in .45. Attached Images __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

02-14-2010, 02:49 PM	#14
Datalyss Huh? Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gallman, MS, USA Posts: 384	Are our soldiers becoming borg? Future Weapons - Soldier of the future

02-14-2010, 04:23 PM	#15
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	Thats nice stuff. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

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