Massive earthquake rocks the US!

[monster]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Or burn it for heat/light...

That's what dead neighbors are for.

[squirell nutkin]

I have some extra leaves, some nuts. The usual stuff.

My friend gave me this list:
From a Sarajevo War Survivor:
Experiencing horrible things that can happen in a war - death of parents and
friends, hunger and malnutrition, endless freezing cold, fear, sniper attacks.

1. Stockpiling helps. but you never no how long trouble will last, so locate
near renewable food sources.
2. Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden.
3. After awhile, even gold can lose its luster. But there is no luxury in war
quite like toilet paper. Its surplus value is greater than gold's.
4. If you had to go without one utility, lose electricity - it's the easiest to
do without (unless you're in a very nice climate with no need for heat.)
5. Canned foods are awesome, especially if their contents are tasty without
heating. One of the best things to stockpile is canned gravy - it makes a lot of
the dry unappetizing things you find to eat in war somewhat edible. Only needs
enough heat to "warm", not to cook. It's cheap too, especially if you buy it in
bulk.
6. Bring some books - escapist ones like romance or mysteries become more
valuable as the war continues. Sure, it's great to have a lot of survival
guides, but you'll figure most of that out on your own anyway - trust me, you'll
have a lot of time on your hands.
7. The feeling that you're human can fade pretty fast. I can't tell you how many
people I knew who would have traded a much needed meal for just a little bit of
toothpaste, rouge, soap or cologne. Not much point in fighting if you have to
lose your humanity. These things are morale-builders like nothing else.
8. Slow burning candles and matches, matches, matches




100 Items to Disappear First

1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
14. Mini Heater head (Propane) (Without this item, propane won't heat a room.)
15. Grain Grinder (Non-electric)
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
26. Bow saws, axes and hatchets, Wedges (also, honing oil)
27. Aluminum Foil Reg. & Heavy Duty (Great Cooking and Barter Item)
28. Gasoline Containers (Plastic & Metal)
29. Garbage Bags (Impossible To Have Too Many).
30. Toilet Paper, Kleenex, Paper Towels
31. Milk - Powdered & Condensed (Shake Liquid every 3 to 4 months)
32. Garden Seeds (Non-Hybrid) (A MUST)
33. Clothes pins/line/hangers (A MUST)
34. Coleman's Pump Repair Kit
35. Tuna Fish (in oil)
36. Fire Extinguishers (or..large box of Baking Soda in every room)
37. First aid kits
38. Batteries (all sizes...buy furthest-out for Expiration Dates)
39. Garlic, spices & vinegar, baking supplies
40. Big Dogs (and plenty of dog food)
41. Flour, yeast & salt
42. Matches. {"Strike Anywhere" preferred.) Boxed, wooden matches will go first
43. Writing paper/pads/pencils, solar calculators
44. Insulated ice chests (good for keeping items from freezing in Wintertime.)
45. Workboots, belts, Levis & durable shirts
46. Flashlights/LIGHTSTICKS & torches, "No. 76 Dietz" Lanterns
47. Journals, Diaries & Scrapbooks (jot down ideas, feelings, experience; Historic Times)
48. Garbage cans Plastic (great for storage, water, transporting - if with wheels)
49. Men's Hygiene: Shampoo, Toothbrush/paste, Mouthwash/floss, nail clippers, etc
50. Cast iron cookware (sturdy, efficient)
51. Fishing supplies/tools
52. Mosquito coils/repellent, sprays/creams
53. Duct Tape
54. Tarps/stakes/twine/nails/rope/spikes
55. Candles
56. Laundry Detergent (liquid)
57. Backpacks, Duffel Bags
58. Garden tools & supplies
59. Scissors, fabrics & sewing supplies
60. Canned Fruits, Veggies, Soups, stews, etc.
61. Bleach (plain, NOT scented: 4 to 6% sodium hypochlorite)
62. Canning supplies, (Jars/lids/wax)
63. Knives & Sharpening tools: files, stones, steel
64. Bicycles...Tires/tubes/pumps/chains, etc
65. Sleeping Bags & blankets/pillows/mats
66. Carbon Monoxide Alarm (battery powered)
67. Board Games, Cards, Dice
68. d-con Rat poison, MOUSE PRUFE II, Roach Killer
69. Mousetraps, Ant traps & cockroach magnets
70. Paper plates/cups/utensils (stock up, folks)
71. Baby wipes, oils, waterless & Antibacterial soap (saves a lot of water)
72. Rain gear, rubberized boots, etc.
73. Shaving supplies (razors & creams, talc, after shave)
74. Hand pumps & siphons (for water and for fuels)
75. Soysauce, vinegar, bullions/gravy/soupbase
76. Reading glasses
77. Chocolate/Cocoa/Tang/Punch (water enhancers)
78. "Survival-in-a-Can"
79. Woolen clothing, scarves/ear-muffs/mittens
80. Boy Scout Handbook, / also Leaders Catalog
81. Roll-on Window Insulation Kit (MANCO)
82. Graham crackers, saltines, pretzels, Trail mix/Jerky
83. Popcorn, Peanut Butter, Nuts
84. Socks, Underwear, T-shirts, etc. (extras)
85. Lumber (all types)
86. Wagons & carts (for transport to and from)
87. Cots & Inflatable mattress's
88. Gloves: Work/warming/gardening, etc.
89. Lantern Hangers
90. Screen Patches, glue, nails, screws,, nuts & bolts
91. Teas
92. Coffee
93. Cigarettes
94. Wine/Liquors (for bribes, medicinal, etc,)
95. Paraffin wax
96. Glue, nails, nuts, bolts, screws, etc.
97. Chewing gum/candies
98. Atomizers (for cooling/bathing)
99. Hats & cotton neckerchiefs
100. Goats/chickens

[dmg1969]

My brother and I are both into survivalism, so he and he wife and I and my wife better prepared than the average people. We both have stocks of food in our houses (enough for several weeks). I have a fire pit out back with a supply of wood so cooking won't be a problem if the power is out. We have some water stored, but can get plenty from a nearby stream and/or river and boil it as needed.

Both he and his wife and I and my wife have GHB (Get Home Bags) in our respective vehicles. These include things like a small amount of food (crackers, granola bars, etc), water, flashlight, chemical light stick, knife, multi-tool, compass, whistle, waterproof matches and petroleum jelly soaked cotton balls for fire starting, emergency thermal blanket, plastic rain poncho, chemical hand warmers, first aid/trauma kit, cordage, a pair of gloves and maybe a few other things...going from memory. The purpose of this is to keep you alive and get you home.

At home, we have a well stocked BoB (Bug out Bag) for use if we need to evacuate and have to be on our own for a few days. It has a lot of the same things as the GHB, only with more food and water, water purification tablets, a better first aid kit, a tarp, tent stakes and military sleeping pads for a makeshift shelter, a non-battery radio, mess kits, personal hygiene products, a hatchet and small folding saw, Leatherman, more fire starting supplies including magnesium flint stick and a few other things.

We have a plan to grab other essentials we will need on the way out the door (cash, 3 firearms and ammo and medications).

[glatt]

Originally Posted by dmg1969

I have a fire pit out back with a supply of wood so cooking won't be a problem if the power is out.

Just remember that where there's smoke, there's a cook fire. And that smoke is easy to follow. When the thousands of hungry people around you smell that cookout, do you think they will stay put, or follow their noses?

[dmg1969]

That's what the guns are for

Seriously, if you know how to make a fire correctly, there will be very little smoke and you can shield the flame at night. I'm not claiming to have all the answers Glatt. My point was simply that I am prepared to do everything I can to maximinze my and my wife's chances of surviving should the shit hit the fan. Better prepared than most people I would imagine.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by dmg1969

That's what the guns are for

Seriously, if you know how to make a fire correctly, there will be very little smoke and you can shield the flame at night. I'm not claiming to have all the answers Glatt. My point was simply that I am prepared to do everything I can to maximinze my and my wife's chances of surviving should the shit hit the fan. Better prepared than most people I would imagine.

I'm not trying to shoot you down. I'm just pointing out that surviving must also take into account other people. I can't remember where I read it, but something that stuck with me once is that you don't want other people to think you are "rich" (have food and supplies.) Don't throw your empties out side. After you eat some food, hide the empty cans and wrappers. If somebody is looking for food and they see a big pile of empty MRE bags or cans out your back door, they are going know you have food, and they will want it. Hide your "wealth" so you don't have to defend it, and be prepared to defend it if it comes to that.

[Nirvana]

Originally Posted by glatt

Just remember that where there's smoke, there's a cook fire. And that smoke is easy to follow. When the thousands of hungry people around you smell that cookout, do you think they will stay put, or follow their noses?

That what guns and big dogs are for ....

[lookout123]

Um, yeah this is the part where anyone who ever wondered if I was nuts will quit wondering.

*4 people x 2 gals water/day x 15 days + 12,000 gallon swimming pool and plenty of water purifaction options for 6 months.

*Enough MRE's for a week, Mountain House stuff for 60 days, lots of canned foods and other long shelf life foods

*A significant amount of first aid supplies and some basic medical stuff

*Months worth of toiletries

*Camping supplies

*Candles and more than a few windup flashlights

*a number of ways to cook without power

*2 way radios + 1 crank radio

*Firearms designed for different duties, plenty of ammunition for any situation

Each car and office have go bags with checklists and 3 day supplies and equipment.

Yeah, I probably am nuts but I doubt I'll ever regret having the stuff.

Tools, some lumber, a shitton of paracord, several pair of comfy boots and plenty of durable clothing, detailed maps, propane, plenty of alcohol, coffee + percolator, camelbaks, knives, hiking sticks, ... the list grows when I see something I think might be useful.

[monster]

Originally Posted by lookout123

Um, yeah this is the part where anyone who ever wondered if I was nuts will quit wondering.

*4 people x 2 gals water/day x 15 days + 12,000 gallon swimming pool and plenty of water purifaction options for 6 months.

*Enough MRE's for a week, Mountain House stuff for 60 days, lots of canned foods and other long shelf life foods

*A significant amount of first aid supplies and some basic medical stuff

*Months worth of toiletries

*Camping supplies

*Candles and more than a few windup flashlights

*a number of ways to cook without power

*2 way radios + 1 crank radio

*Firearms designed for different duties, plenty of ammunition for any situation

Each car and office have go bags with checklists and 3 day supplies and equipment.

Yeah, I probably am nuts but I doubt I'll ever regret having the stuff.

Tools, some lumber, a shitton of paracord, several pair of comfy boots and plenty of durable clothing, detailed maps, propane, plenty of alcohol, coffee + percolator, camelbaks, knives, hiking sticks, ... the list grows when I see something I think might be useful.

I don't think you're nuts. i forgot to mention the frst aid stuff. And the radios and walkie talkies. And batteries. We don't have shitloads of kleenex and bogroll,though -well we do, but they're stored upstairs. but we do have a huge stack of old towels. In the car we just have water, small medical supplies, several changes of clothes and blankets. this is nothing to do with armageddon, though, it's necessary for our overly-scheduled family survival

[skysidhe]

Originally Posted by lookout123

.....but I doubt I'll ever regret having the stuff.

Maybe ...only when you see the refugee line outside your door?

At least you'll have plenty of toilet paper to share.:p

[Pie]

I got water purification methods, and food for two for about a month. Cat food and litter, too. Essential drugs, basic antibiotics, first aid supplies. Hand-crank radio/cell phone charger. Chlorine bleach. Soap. Toilet paper. Solar cooker. Grill with extra propane. Camping gear.

Need cyanide pills.

[xoxoxoBruce]

But no soul.

[monster]

oh, don't forget the sunblock!

[lookout123]

Plenty of sunblock.

kits for scorpion sting and snakebite too. This is Arizona and I'm north of the 5the largest city in the country. My plan if something really bad happens is to head up to a predetermined spot in northern AZ. If that isn't possible, I'm prepared to hole up in the house for months at a time and I'm fairly confident that we and a couple like minded neighbors would be able to deter anyone thinking about messing with us.

[monster]

I have no firearms. but beest's paintball guns would fucking hurt...