Roger Ebert writes an open letter to Rush Limbaugh - Page 4

Shawnee123 · 01-15-2010, 02:10 PM

Ohhhhh...a cultural reference I didn't know! Thanks!

Pico and ME · 01-15-2010, 02:14 PM

FTR...Shawnee isnt the only one to notice the condescending attitude that is sometimes exhibited here on the Cellar. I was quite astounded by Bruce's comment to Cloud the other day.

Shawnee123 · 01-15-2010, 02:33 PM

You mean when he called her a cunt for having the audacity to feel a bit put off by a comment he made? Seemed a bit overboard to me too. Was she upset for a silly reason? Probably. Is that reason to call her a cunt? I don't know, I guess we should learn to shut up when we're told. I figured there must be a backstory that I didn't know, as I watched the pile on. *shrugs* Paint it what they will, it's shitty.

classicman · 01-15-2010, 03:02 PM

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and I'll defend myself when I need>< defended.

>to be<

Nirvana · 01-15-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

>to be<

Nirvana hands off the "asshole" baton to Classicman.

SamIam · 01-15-2010, 03:26 PM

Yipes!

Well, I don't feel that the men here condescend to me, but I try to be low key. I'm just not interested in flame wars. I could probably start WWIII with Merc and C-man if I felt like it. I just don't feel like it. And nasty remarks are not just aimed at women. Look at the posts between Redux, Merc, etc.

You are pretty much a straight shooter, Shawnee, and you shouldn't be surprised if other folks return the fire. I am rather in awe that you got Bruce to respond as he did. He's usually pretty mellow.

This is just the internet for heaven's sake. Read a decent book and check back in tomorrow.

classicman · 01-15-2010, 03:16 PM

lol - I was trying to be funny there and steer the conversation away from the precipice.

Nirvana · 01-15-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by classicman

lol - I was trying to be funny there and steer the conversation away from the precipice.

And just where do you think Satan was trying to go?

Why the precipice of course!

01-15-2010, 03:16 PM

Yes, absolutely, the Cellar has it own Rush (and no, I dont mean UG), but he's treated like a petulant spoiled child and simply accepted and ignored by most and rarely, if ever, called out for his antics or his offensive posts.

And yes, w/o knowing the back story, I too thought the recent "cunt" reference to another member here was offensive,

Generally I laugh at the "fuck you" or "failed" tossed out by our Rush and his acquiescent supporters when confronted or challenged with facts or an opinion with which they disagree...but IMO, there is a clear pattern of discourse here in the politics section in which, very often, the more conservative members dont seem interested in discussion as much as they are "going negative" and attacking people that challenge them.

But what do I know. I'm just an arrogant east coast liberal elitist and I guess that pisses some people off.

classicman · 01-15-2010, 03:54 PM

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Shawnee123 · 01-15-2010, 03:29 PM

I don't mind the returned fire, if it's straight shooting as well, rather than a cover-up for bruised egos and a "see, there she goes again" designed to deflect who is actually being the ass (in the name of Rush, of all people)

Oh, and with all due respect, you're you. I'm me. It's easy to tell the difference. You are there, and I am here. Me. You. You. Me.

We're different, Sam, and that's OK...

When you are called a cunt, please to let me know what you think of it, hmmm? When you accidentally bruise an ego (because you would not do so on purpose as I might) let me know how the resulting twisting feels to you.

01-15-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

I don't mind the returned fire, if it's straight shooting as well...

But, but....what if they are the gang that couldnt shoot straight? Or refuse to even attempt?

SamIam · 01-15-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

I don't mind the returned fire, if it's straight shooting as well, rather than a cover-up for bruised egos and a "see, there she goes again" designed to deflect who is actually being the ass (in the name of Rush, of all people)

Oh, and with all due respect, you're you. I'm me. It's easy to tell the difference. You are there, and I am here. Me. You. You. Me.

We're different, Sam, and that's OK...

When you are called a cunt, please to let me know what you think of it, hmmm? When you accidentally bruise an ego (because you would not do so on purpose as I might) let me know how the resulting twisting feels to you.

I have been called any number of things and you're right, I get as enraged as anyone else. Now I mostly avoid posting in a manner that will probably result in certain types of retaliation.

But you go for it, Shawnee, you are the pepper that spices up the cellar.

Shawnee123 · 01-15-2010, 03:37 PM

Then I stand up and say something, and get flame-o shat upon mightily. The emperor doesn't like when you point out his lack of clothing, you know, but someone has to stand for something!

classicman · 01-15-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawnee123

but someone has to stand for something!

I stand for >to be<

01-15-2010, 02:10 PM	#1
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Ohhhhh...a cultural reference I didn't know! Thanks! __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

01-15-2010, 02:33 PM	#3
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	You mean when he called her a cunt for having the audacity to feel a bit put off by a comment he made? Seemed a bit overboard to me too. Was she upset for a silly reason? Probably. Is that reason to call her a cunt? I don't know, I guess we should learn to shut up when we're told. I figured there must be a backstory that I didn't know, as I watched the pile on. shrugs Paint it what they will, it's shitty. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

01-15-2010, 03:16 PM	#7
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	lol - I was trying to be funny there and steer the conversation away from the precipice. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-15-2010, 03:16 PM	#9
Redux Guest Posts: n/a	Yes, absolutely, the Cellar has it own Rush (and no, I dont mean UG), but he's treated like a petulant spoiled child and simply accepted and ignored by most and rarely, if ever, called out for his antics or his offensive posts. And yes, w/o knowing the back story, I too thought the recent "cunt" reference to another member here was offensive, Generally I laugh at the "fuck you" or "failed" tossed out by our Rush and his acquiescent supporters when confronted or challenged with facts or an opinion with which they disagree...but IMO, there is a clear pattern of discourse here in the politics section in which, very often, the more conservative members dont seem interested in discussion as much as they are "going negative" and attacking people that challenge them. But what do I know. I'm just an arrogant east coast liberal elitist and I guess that pisses some people off. Last edited by Redux; 01-15-2010 at 03:24 PM.

01-15-2010, 03:54 PM	#10
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	~~~~~~~~~<<<<<<<O>>>>>>~~~~~~~~ Attached Images __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-15-2010, 02:14 PM	#2
Pico and ME Are you knock-kneed? Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Middle Hoosierland Posts: 3,549	FTR...Shawnee isnt the only one to notice the condescending attitude that is sometimes exhibited here on the Cellar. I was quite astounded by Bruce's comment to Cloud the other day.

01-15-2010, 03:26 PM	#6
SamIam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Not here Posts: 2,655	Yipes! Well, I don't feel that the men here condescend to me, but I try to be low key. I'm just not interested in flame wars. I could probably start WWIII with Merc and C-man if I felt like it. I just don't feel like it. And nasty remarks are not just aimed at women. Look at the posts between Redux, Merc, etc. You are pretty much a straight shooter, Shawnee, and you shouldn't be surprised if other folks return the fire. I am rather in awe that you got Bruce to respond as he did. He's usually pretty mellow. This is just the internet for heaven's sake. Read a decent book and check back in tomorrow.

01-15-2010, 03:29 PM	#11
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	I don't mind the returned fire, if it's straight shooting as well, rather than a cover-up for bruised egos and a "see, there she goes again" designed to deflect who is actually being the ass (in the name of Rush, of all people) Oh, and with all due respect, you're you. I'm me. It's easy to tell the difference. You are there, and I am here. Me. You. You. Me. We're different, Sam, and that's OK... When you are called a cunt, please to let me know what you think of it, hmmm? When you accidentally bruise an ego (because you would not do so on purpose as I might) let me know how the resulting twisting feels to you. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby Last edited by Shawnee123; 01-15-2010 at 03:35 PM.

01-15-2010, 03:37 PM	#14
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	Then I stand up and say something, and get flame-o shat upon mightily. The emperor doesn't like when you point out his lack of clothing, you know, but someone has to stand for something! __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

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