Deadly Swine Flu Outbreak - Page 3

TheMercenary · 04-26-2009, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jill

Ok, I'll step in and be the lone shoulder-shrugger. I think this is much ado about little. Sure, it's a new strain. Sure, it's (possibly*) taken the lives of 80-some people in Mexico. But the flu was the cause of death in 36,000 people in the U.S. last year. Eighty people is statistically meaningless. Not to mention that *they don't even know that it was the swine flu that caused the deaths of those 80 people!

More info, for a bit of perspective.

Don't waste your breath, or typing, I have tried already. It is no one's statistic until it is your own, then it is 100%.

classicman · 04-26-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by capnhowdy

Napolitano called the emergency declaration standard operating procedure — one was declared recently for the inauguration and for flooding. She urged people to think of it as a "declaration of emergency preparedness."

"Really that's what we're doing right now. We're preparing in an environment where we really don't know ultimately what the size of seriousness of this outbreak is going to be."

They are scared of not acting. Seems premature to me as well, but maybe they know something we don't. :shrug:

Then again at this rate they'll be killing flies with sledgehammers soon.

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Don't waste your breath, or typing, I have tried already. It is no one's statistic until it is your own, then it is 100%.

Jill, Merc, Ali... there are plenty of alarmists who want to just keep predicting everything will go bad, we have one here. Then when one of his ramblings comes close to being true he calls himself a genius. Never mind the dozens or hundreds (who knows how many) that were total bullshit.
I agree - this may be a very serious threat, but it is far too early to tell.
Then again, better safe than sorry...

TheMercenary · 04-26-2009, 10:57 PM

Look dude. My response is not one of an "alarmist" it is one of a health care provider. All I said is that we should keep an eye on it. The regular yearly flu kills enough people in this country, and as I stated it is nothing but a statistic until it is yours or someone you love.

morethanpretty · 04-27-2009, 10:38 AM

Just got an email warning at work:

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The Department of Homeland Security and Center for Disease Control (CDC) have issued a Public Health Advisory in response to a number of cases of swine flu reported in Texas, Ohio, New York and California which originated from Mexico. This email is directed to all U.S. employees, but particularly to employees who participated in our Sales Conference last week in Dallas, where a number of cases are currently being tracked.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/habit...u_outbreak_003

I live in and work near Dallas BTW. I'm not freaking, I don't go out, but if I was a socializer, I think right now I would not be so much. Really all the suggestions are what a person should be doing normal to avoid any sickness.

RFN my major disease paranoia is about flesh-eating bacteria. Why? Well, a friend of my mom's went to the hospital the other week with flu-like symptoms and the whole damn time she is telling the staff that there is an odd rash on her arm that needs to be checked out. The staff refused to call the doctor in to look at her for a rash (WTH?!) and by the next morning the skin on her whole arm was laid open from the flesh-eating bacteria its turns out that she had.

sugarpop · 04-27-2009, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by morethanpretty

Just got an email warning at work:

I live in and work near Dallas BTW. I'm not freaking, I don't go out, but if I was a socializer, I think right now I would not be so much. Really all the suggestions are what a person should be doing normal to avoid any sickness.

RFN my major disease paranoia is about flesh-eating bacteria. Why? Well, a friend of my mom's went to the hospital the other week with flu-like symptoms and the whole damn time she is telling the staff that there is an odd rash on her arm that needs to be checked out. The staff refused to call the doctor in to look at her for a rash (WTH?!) and by the next morning the skin on her whole arm was laid open from the flesh-eating bacteria its turns out that she had.

Well that sounds like a lawsuit to me. Stupid ass hospital staff. Don't they know they can be sued for refusing treatment?

morethanpretty · 04-27-2009, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarpop

Well that sounds like a lawsuit to me. Stupid ass hospital staff. Don't they know they can be sued for refusing treatment?

The family took pictures of the progression the whole night. I do believe a lawsuit is in the works, and deservedly so.

Shawnee123 · 04-27-2009, 10:40 AM

As far as I can tell, there is one Ohio boy with a confirmed case, in the Cleveland area, and he and his family had recently been to Mexico.

Kitsune · 04-27-2009, 02:21 PM

Drew Curtis of Fark has a great summary of media panic on this.

My current bet on why no one in the US has died or had a severe reaction, yet: the air quality in Mexico City is bad enough to cause lethal complications with anyone who has a case of the sniffles. Pneumonia is not difficult to develop when you're inhaling air as thick as soup.

dar512 · 04-27-2009, 03:03 PM

A school in California has closed because a student has mild flu symptoms - until lab results show whether it's swinish or not.

Pie · 04-27-2009, 03:33 PM

...but does it taste like bacon?

wolf · 04-27-2009, 04:59 PM

Working in a hospital, I tend to worry about this kind of thing more than most people, especially given that my hospital is a non-medical one.

We were talking about this a little today, and I recalled back when I was in high school, when a bunch of people died from receiving the swine flu vaccine.

jinx · 04-27-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

We were talking about this a little today, and I recalled back when I was in high school, when a bunch of people died from receiving the swine flu vaccine.

Yeah, from Guillian Barre - which is eerily similar to polio btw....

morethanpretty · 04-27-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf

We were talking about this a little today, and I recalled back when I was in high school, when a bunch of people died from receiving the swine flu vaccine.

My dad was telling me about that. He said one person died from the swine flu, so legislation was rushed through to force drug companies to make and distribute the vaccine. Then the vaccine killed several people itself and caused neurological damage in others. Thats what he said about it atleast.

ZenGum · 04-27-2009, 08:25 PM

I think it has been said before, but it is worth repeating: just because someone dies with the disease, doesn't mean they died because of the disease. Kitsune's point about complicating factors is a very good one.

Aliantha · 04-27-2009, 11:46 PM

In Australia authorities are executing pandemic procedures at our boarders, which is mainly at international airports. They're quaranteening and then testing anyone coming into the country with flu like symptoms. Apparently the number being tested is quite high.

I ask you, who doesn't look and feel like shit after an international flight to Australia? We're a long way from pretty much anywhere.

04-26-2009, 10:57 PM	#3
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	Look dude. My response is not one of an "alarmist" it is one of a health care provider. All I said is that we should keep an eye on it. The regular yearly flu kills enough people in this country, and as I stated it is nothing but a statistic until it is yours or someone you love. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

04-27-2009, 10:40 AM	#7
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	As far as I can tell, there is one Ohio boy with a confirmed case, in the Cleveland area, and he and his family had recently been to Mexico. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

04-27-2009, 03:03 PM	#9
dar512 dar512 is now Pete Zicato Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chicago suburb Posts: 4,968	A school in California has closed because a student has mild flu symptoms - until lab results show whether it's swinish or not. __________________ "Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain." -- Friedrich Schiller

04-27-2009, 03:33 PM	#10
Pie Gone and done Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 4,808	...but does it taste like bacon? __________________ per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not.

04-27-2009, 04:59 PM	#11
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Working in a hospital, I tend to worry about this kind of thing more than most people, especially given that my hospital is a non-medical one. We were talking about this a little today, and I recalled back when I was in high school, when a bunch of people died from receiving the swine flu vaccine. __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-27-2009, 02:21 PM	#8
Kitsune still eats dirt Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 3,031	Drew Curtis of Fark has a great summary of media panic on this. My current bet on why no one in the US has died or had a severe reaction, yet: the air quality in Mexico City is bad enough to cause lethal complications with anyone who has a case of the sniffles. Pneumonia is not difficult to develop when you're inhaling air as thick as soup.

04-27-2009, 08:25 PM	#14
ZenGum Doctor Wtf Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Badelaide, Baustralia Posts: 12,861	I think it has been said before, but it is worth repeating: just because someone dies with the disease, doesn't mean they died because of the disease. Kitsune's point about complicating factors is a very good one. __________________ Shut up and hug. MoreThanPretty, Nov 5, 2008. Just because I'm nominally polite, does not make me a pussy. Sundae Girl.

04-27-2009, 11:46 PM	#15
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	In Australia authorities are executing pandemic procedures at our boarders, which is mainly at international airports. They're quaranteening and then testing anyone coming into the country with flu like symptoms. Apparently the number being tested is quite high. I ask you, who doesn't look and feel like shit after an international flight to Australia? We're a long way from pretty much anywhere. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

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