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Old 03-22-2009, 04:13 PM   #1
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Old 03-22-2009, 04:21 PM   #2
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Old 03-22-2009, 07:40 PM   #3
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Flint - you are looking oooollllllddddd brother - looks like you need a vacation
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Old 03-23-2009, 09:07 PM   #4
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I don't think it would be such a bad thing to require young adults to serve, in some capacity, for a couple of years. It might actually instill some good qualities, instead of laziness and greed.
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Old 03-23-2009, 11:08 PM   #5
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I don't think it would be such a bad thing to require young adults to serve, in some capacity, for a couple of years. It might actually instill some good qualities, instead of laziness and greed.
The federal government is not empowered to compel any service beyond the military.
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Old 03-24-2009, 12:10 AM   #6
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The federal government is not empowered to compel any service beyond the military.
Does that apply to prisoners who are required to work in near-sweatshop conditions? Seems to me they are being compelled to do so by the government, or in the case of privately run prisons, by the government's proxy.

Mind you, I reckon it probably does 'em some good. Just askin, thats all.
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Old 03-24-2009, 06:45 PM   #7
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Does that apply to prisoners who are required to work in near-sweatshop conditions?
Nope. Those citizens have been convicted in a court of law. Apples and oranges.
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Old 03-26-2009, 07:56 PM   #8
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The federal government is not empowered to compel any service beyond the military.
Why?
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:27 PM   #9
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Why?
Because that's the only compulsory service the constitution authorizes, and amendment X forbids them from doing anything they are not specifically empowered to do.
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Old 03-26-2009, 08:46 PM   #11
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Old 03-27-2009, 10:38 AM   #12
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Pelosi to ramrod 634 billion dollar funding through House for funding for health care over 10 years.

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Pelosi defended a drive by House Democrats to put health- care legislation on a fast track under a budget proposal announced this week.

Legislative Maneuvers

A draft of the House tax-and-spending blueprint calls for using “reconciliation” procedures, a maneuver that would allow a health-care overhaul to move through the Senate with a requirement for a simple majority of 51 votes. Under normal Senate debate rules, 60 votes are needed to keep opponents from blocking legislation.
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Old 03-27-2009, 11:10 AM   #13
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Pelosi to ramrod 634 billion dollar funding through House for funding for health care over 10 years.



http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...efer=worldwide

Transparency. Not.
There is no transparency issue.

Obama's 2010 budget proposal, which includes the health care reform initiative, has been on the WH website since he sent it to Congress several weeks ago.

The budget proposal is being debated in various committees in both the House and Senate and the Republicans are not excluded from the debate nor from offering amendments.

The Democrats are considering using a parliamentary procedure that was used by Republicans in the past to prevent the Senate from forcing a 60 vote threshold.

It may not represent "change" but the hypocrisy is the Republicans bitching about a procedure they used themselves (mostly notably to get Bush's tax cuts enacted)
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Old 03-28-2009, 05:01 AM   #14
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Transparency. Not.
If it's not transparent, how do you, and I, and every media outlet know about it?
If you don't like the way they're doing it just say so, but stop lying about transparency.
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Old 03-28-2009, 05:30 AM   #15
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If it's not transparent, how do you, and I, and every media outlet know about it?
If you don't like the way they're doing it just say so, but stop lying about transparency.
Why would you consider it "lying"? When the hell does my assessment of what they are doing become a lie to you? I think it is pretty obvious my feelings otherwise, so why do you call it a lie?
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