Immigration Enforcement Un-American?

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Well, is it really good for the country to import unskilled, illiterate people? Don't we have too many of those already?

And honestly, since we have lost so many jobs, why would we want to let more people in right now? I am all for opening the borders for more LEGAL immigrants, but not right now. After the recession is over. Right now, we need to look out for the people who are legal citizens/immigrants.

Personally, I don't think there should be ANY borders, ANYWHERE. But that will never happen.

sugar...my point was to the issue of bias (not racism) in the current immigration system (as well as the valued notion of "Give me your tired, your poor,. Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. .").

Take 100 foreigners who will get immigration visas....70 or so (some might be illiterate and/or unskilled) will be eligible solely because of having a close relative here.....20 or so will have highly valued or technical job skills, 5 will have reasons of political persecution...and 5 will get in on the "diversity" lottery, with Europe, Asia and Africa each having more slots then South/Central America.

IMO, this is a biased system.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by Redux

sugar...my point was to the issue of bias (not racism) in the current immigration system (as well as the valued notion of "Give me your tired, your poor,. Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free..The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. .").

Take 100 foreigners who will get immigration visas....70 or so (some might be illiterate and/or unskilled) will be eligible solely because of having a close relative here.....20 or so will have highly valued or technical job skills, 5 will have reasons of political persecution...and 5 will get in on the "diversity" lottery, with Europe, Asia and Africa each having more slots then South/Central America.

IMO, this is a biased system.

If it's so unbiased, why is it predicted that by 2050 latinos will be the dominate ethnicity? I remember reading that somewhere. I don't think people should be allowed to come simply because they have relatives here. I think political persecution should top that.

Originally Posted by sugarpop

If it's so unbiased, why is it predicted that by 2050 latinos will be the dominate ethnicity? I remember reading that somewhere. I don't think people should be allowed to come simply because they have relatives here. I think political persecution should top that.

I don't think you read that prediction correctly.

Its more like that by 2050, non-Hispanic Whites will no longer be the majority in the US (whites will be under 50% of the pop for the first time).

Its true that Hispanics are the fastest rising ethnicity, but nowhere near a majority by 2050...more like doubling from the current 12% to about 25%.

The Asian population in the US is expected to double during that period as well.

But should that be a basis for immigration?

[lookout123]

My respect for the subject ended when I had 3 semester hours left for my minor. I had a professor who refused to let me pass the course unless I wrote a paper on the minority group I'm a part of or admit I was a racist and write a paper on that. All white people are racist, ya know. of course, he couldn't recognize his own bias because in his world white people have the power so only they can be racist. I still think he's just pissed his proper little japanese sister took up with a white boy.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by lookout123

All white people are racist, ya know.

If I had a damm nickle for every time I have heard someone tell me that I'd complete with Soros.

[sugarpop]

Wait, I thought genetics proved there is really no such thing as race. There are certain characteristics in some ethnicities, but no actual race difference, kinda like in different breeds of cats or dogs. There is only the human race.

[TheMercenary]

WTF?

Brazil’s leader blames white people for crisis

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ae4957e8-1...0779fd2ac.html

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

WTF?

Brazil’s leader blames white people for crisis

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ae4957e8-1...0779fd2ac.html

I believe he was arguing the problem started in the United States, with the "good ol' white boys club" in Wall Street, and he would be right.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on Thursday blamed the global economic crisis on “white people with blue eyes” and said it was wrong that black and indigenous people should pay for white people’s mistakes.

But that is what he said. I can't know what he meant, or read his mind(it would be in Portuguese anyway), I can only know what he said. And as a blue eyed white person, I take exception to his statement.

[classicman]

From the link:

Brazil’s President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva on Thursday blamed the global economic crisis on “white people with blue eyes” and said it was wrong that black and indigenous people should pay for white people’s mistakes.

Speaking in Brasília at a joint press conference with Gordon Brown, the UK prime minister, Mr Lula da Silva told reporters: “This crisis was caused by the irrational behaviour of white people with blue eyes, who before the crisis appeared to know everything and now demonstrate that they know nothing.”

He added: “I do not know any black or indigenous bankers so I can only say [it is wrong] that this part of mankind which is victimized more than any other should pay for the crisis.”

Uh, yeh sure. And this guy is the President of Brazil.

[TheMercenary]

Yea, damm Northern Europeans!

What about the white people with brown eyes?! Heh, what about them?

[sugarpop]

I agree. it was pretty out there.

[TheMercenary]

Why doesn't he just blame the Aryan Race or Nazi Empire?

[TheMercenary]

Well there you have it.

Homeland Security Frees 27 Illegal Immigrants, Sends Them Back to Work

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512098,00.html

[classicman]

The Feb. 24 raid of an auto parts plant in Bellingham, Wash., netted 28 illegal immigrants. While one was deported, the remaining workers were released from custody and given employment authorization documents, or EADs, in exchange for cooperating with an ongoing investigation of their employer, Yamato Engine Specialists.

But critics say the softened policy will increase the number of illegal immigrants entering the country.

"The signal that it sends to illegal immigrants is that if you can get here, you're pretty much home free," said Ira Mehlman, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform.

Criminal arrests of employers who hired illegal immigrants skyrocketed from 25 in 2002 to 1,103 in 2008. The number of deportations jumped from 485 to 5,184 over that same time period. The Obama administration has sought a freeze on immigrant arrests.

Enforcement advocates say Americans should be outraged by the government giving illegal immigrants a right to work when unemployment is so high for documented workers.

Unemployment in Whatcom County, home to the Yamato plant, has risen to 8.1 percent, and in the days after the Yamato raid, more than 150 people applied for the jobs made open by the arrests.

Too bad not one American got a job.