Spending for health care

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

How do you figure that. I speak as an end user of automated record keeping. It has many problems. When I start to see Obama give away money for people to purchase the programs, have them installed, and have them pay for the continual upgrades, fixes, and trouble shooting to interface the way they should, we can talk. Until then they are blowing smoke up everyones skirt.

Maybe they should use MACs instead of Microshit...

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by sugarpop

Maybe they should use MACs instead of Microshit...

The computer is not the problem, it's the software.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

The computer is not the problem, it's the software.

EXACTLY!

[TheMercenary]

For some reason I don't think that Obama's plan includes giving this stuff away to Dr's, Hospitals, or other private health care facilities.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

For some reason I don't think that Obama's plan includes giving this stuff away to Dr's, Hospitals, or other private health care facilities.

I would think that is the $20 billion in the stimululs bill that I think is a good investment for short term jobs and longer term efficiencies in the health care system.

As I said....it's your experience versus numerous medical professionals with equal or more experience and expertise.

You chose the former..I chose the latter.

And as you said...time will tell.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

I would think that is the $20 billion in the stimululs bill that I think is a good investment for short term jobs and longer term efficiencies in the health care system.

As I said....it's your experience versus numerous medical professionals with equal or more experience and expertise.

You chose the former..I chose the latter.

And as you said...time will tell.

No, those are people who crunch numbers. Not end users. Look behind the people who push the research on electronic medial record keeping and you will find the companies who benifit from it paying for the research.

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

No, those are people who crunch numbers. Not end users. Look behind the people who push the research on electronic medial record keeping and you will find the companies who benifit from it paying for the research.

The Harvard guy is an end-user:

Dr. John Halamka is the chief information officer at Harvard Medical School and one of its teaching hospitals. He oversees 20,000 computers dedicated to health care.

"It requires a lot of hands on, this means you need training and education much more than hardware and software, and that means a lot of people," Halamka says.

He's helped more than 1,000 doctors in Massachusetts to go electronic, creating 20 new jobs in the process. The doctors can use computers to access patient records and order tests and drugs. And the computers can prompt them about possible diagnoses and treatments.

Using his experiences in Massachusetts, Halamka calculates that equipping hundreds of thousands of doctors with computers would create about 200,000 new jobs — positions for training health personnel and running health systems. There also would be jobs in hardware and software companies, and the growing number of Internet companies that let people keep their own records online.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=99916019

I dont take the numbers at face value, but I do take the concept at face value.

[TheMercenary]

"1,000 doctors in Massachusetts to go electronic, creating 20 new jobs in the process."

WOW! 20 jobs! Boy I bet that put Massachusetts on the Map in Job Creation! And I be it did cost them millions.

You like cherry picking, huh?

200,000 jobs nationwide.

I bet you like the horse and buggy too!

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by Redux

You like cherry picking, huh?

200,000 jobs nationwide.

I bet you like the horse and buggy too!

We lost 623,000 jobs last month.

And how much of this bill is going to vanish along the way?

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by TGRR

We lost 623,000 jobs last month.

And how much of this bill is going to vanish along the way?

Well you just let ole Redux know that 20 jobs were created in MA after millions spent so he can feel better about making a bunch of IT savy docs multi-millionares will ya?

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Well you just let ole Redux know that 20 jobs were created in MA after millions spent so he can feel better about making a bunch of IT savy docs multi-millionares will ya?

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Well you just let ole Redux know that 20 jobs were created in MA after millions spent so he can feel better about making a bunch of IT savy docs multi-millionares will ya?

Too late now...its a done deal!

Some IT companies are gonna provide jobs and get richer in the process...and the Obama administration is gonna take over your life

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

Too late now...its a done deal!

Some IT companies are gonna provide jobs and get richer in the process...and the Obama administration is gonna take over your life

AHA!

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

Too late now...its a done deal!

Some IT companies are gonna provide jobs and get richer in the process...and the Obama administration is gonna take over your life

yep, you said it bro, and I can't wait to blame them for the next 4 years of fuckups and failures.