Spending for health care

[TGRR]

Originally Posted by classicman

Cost savings passed on to consumers? I'll believe that when I see it.



Well for 20 BILLION, it better create tens of thousands of jobs!

It only costs me $65,000 a year, everything included, to create a job for a journeyman mechanic.

Why does it cost so fucking much for this bill to create each job?

[classicman]

C'mon Ali - He was just calming down too! Did you have to fan the flames?

[Aliantha]

lol...well I have to leave him something to go on with. I wont be here for a few days. (yes I know there's plenty who'll be happy to see that. Try and control yourselves so you don't look like dicks please)

[TheMercenary]

US? look like dicks? please.

[Aliantha]

Well I don't think you lot will be the ones glad I'm not here.

I think there is a contingent who will be though. lol

(but please feel free to act like dicks anyway )

Or we could keep slogging along with a health care system where 20-25% (from the Rand study) of the doctors and hospitals are bogged down with paper records or at best, localized data, rather than a broad and more efficient health care IT infrastructure.

[classicman]

One thing about computerizing all this data is that the system will probably be hacked at some point and the info manipulated, exploited or sold for profit somehow.

Originally Posted by classicman

One thing about computerizing all this data is that the system will probably be hacked at some point and the info manipulated, exploited or sold for profit somehow.

the price of progress.

Should we shut down all ATM machines and return to the days of more manual tellers in banks because of potential hacking, data exploitation?

[classicman]

Originally Posted by Redux

the price of progress.

Should we shut down all ATM machines and return to the days of more manual tellers in banks because of potential hacking, data exploitation?

devils/ Should we? There were a lot less problems and that would probably create more jobs, wouldn't it?/advocate

Originally Posted by classicman

devils/ Should we? There were a lot less problems and that would probably create more jobs, wouldn't it?/advocate

problems v convenience

bank tellers v it technicians.

[sugarpop]

Originally Posted by classicman

One thing about computerizing all this data is that the system will probably be hacked at some point and the info manipulated, exploited or sold for profit somehow.

That already happens. I got letter a couple of years ago that my data might have been stolen. And ftr, people can steal data from paper just as easily, in fact probably easier.

Technology improves efficiency in any sector in a national and global economy.

Efficiency saves money.

[TheMercenary]

I have not seen it. Not in the medical profession. One hospital I worked at introduced automated records in 1995. We spent more time fixing what it recorded than doing it. Made some slick records but that was about it.

I understand that you accept the unsubstantiated and undocumented opinion of the editorial writer and/or your own limited anecdotal experience over Rand studies or Harvard studies.

We know they are part of the vast left wing conspiracy to take over your life.

[TheMercenary]

How do you figure that. I speak as an end user of automated record keeping. It has many problems. When I start to see Obama give away money for people to purchase the programs, have them installed, and have them pay for the continual upgrades, fixes, and trouble shooting to interface the way they should, we can talk. Until then they are blowing smoke up everyones skirt.