Save the Sea Kittens

[TheMercenary]

http://mtd.com/tasty/

[classicman]

I'm sorry tw - I missed your cite AGAIN - I got the "you know nothing so you're a whackoextremist part" though. I also got the "this is fact because I said so" part, but your proof was missing again. Try posting some actual facts to support your claim that the fish depletion began in the 80's. Otherwise STFU. mmmkay?


Man whats gotten into you lately? You are getting quite intolerable.
FWIW, I post a citation each and every time I'm asked.

[classicman]

AMAZING FACTS ABOUT THE GLOBAL FISHERIES CRISIS

The world's marine catch has increased more than four times in the past 40 years -- from 18.5 million tons in 1950 to 82.5 million tons by 1992.

from another source:

The popular George's Bank cod in New England has sunk 77 percent since 1978, while the West Coast rockfish known as bocaccio has nearly vanished, declining 97 percent since the late 1960s.

and yet another:

The scientific data also indicates that marine biodiversity has already crashed by as much as 29% since 1960.

Another reason (fact) is that this was not even considered an issue of "global importance" to most countries until the 80's. At that point there became a wider range on information and more reliable data available to substantiate the declining fish populations.

Additionally the decline in fish populations has many factors involved from global warming, or cooling as assumed in the 70's, to overfishing both commercially and privately. It was originally assumed that the private fishermen were the culprits. Only when strict limits were put upon them and the decline continued to worsen did the reality become known. Private fisherman are NOT the problem.

I have personally seen commercial boats take out entire schools. Yes, personally. They will group their boats together and repeatedly circle a school with their nets. It takes them very little time to completely devastate an entire school.

In recent years they have begun to follow the scallop trawlers. They have learned that the tuna follow these boats up the coast for an easy and reliable food source. Sometimes they are so close as to almost entangle their gear with each other. It's a sin, but these guys have gotten so technical and so advanced that the fish populations have virtually no chance.

We are looking forward to a certain crisis in about 40-50 years.

Reuters reports that a shocking study published in Science found that ocean life and seafood could be depleted by as early as 2048. The scientific data also indicates that marine biodiversity has already crashed by as much as 29% since 1960.
In an analysis of scientific data going back to the 1960s and historical records over a thousand years, the researchers found that marine biodiversity -- the variety of ocean fish, shellfish, birds, plants and micro-organisms -- has declined dramatically, with 29 percent of species already in collapse.

[Aliantha]

PETA's Point - killing fish is cruel

tw's Point - mismanagement has depleted fish stocks and now there are serious problems which need to be addressed.

My Point - PETA are aiming this website at the wrong demographic and it's not going to go anywhere.

My Opinion - There are serious issues with regard to mismanagement of fisheries which need to be addressed and PETA do more to damage the likelihood of any recovery than they obviously realise. Telling people not to kill fish for food is not the answer. Proper management of a renewable resource is.

ETA: btw, I have some information on some of the by-catch reduction devices currently in use or on trial in Australia if you're seriously interested in learning what some people in the industry are working on to solve the by-catch issue which seems to be of serious concern to you.

[tw]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

btw, I have some information on some of the by-catch reduction devices currently in use or on trial in Australia if you're seriously interested in learning what some people in the industry are working on to solve the by-catch issue which seems to be of serious concern to you.

Have seen little about the problem in Australian and Indian Ocean fisheries. For example, I read that all but 25% of the Australian barrier reefs are in some form of serious degradation or trouble. But that comes only from single sentences without supporting facts to confirm that number is really what they meant.

How bad is problem in Australian fisheries? I have also read suggestions that the problem may only be in the SW corner where pesticides and fertilizer wash into the ocean. It that also true or is the problem widespread all around Australia?

[monster]

Let's eat the twolls instead!

[zippyt]

How Fucking Board is TW To be Arguing about FISH !!!!!

Oh Yeah Tw I have NEVER Put any body on ignore till Now !!!

See ya, Wouldnt want to be YA !!!!

[monster]

Originally Posted by zippyt

How Fucking Board is TW To be Arguing about FISH !!!!!

Oh Yeah Tw I have NEVER Put any body on ignore till Now !!!

See ya, Wouldnt want to be YA !!!!

Fishing is a twoll's speciality ...occasionally they change the bait to see if they can stir up the waters and snag some bigger fish ....and it works.

[Aliantha]

Hey, fish are important! They make up a good proportion of our diet and they also provide us with a good excuse to go to the beach often.

Fish are not boring! lol

[zippyt]

I didnt meen that fish are boring , it just seems TWs spoiling for a scrap ANY where he can find one , includeing Personal attacks .
We should ALL ignore him , may be he will go AWAY !!!

I doubt it , but hey you Never know

[Aliantha]

He might.

Talking about fish can be boring though really. I listen to discussions about fish and marine environments all the time, and believe me, it has often contributed to me drinking far more than I should have. lol

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

He might.

Talking about fish can be boring though really. I listen to discussions about fish and marine environments all the time, and believe me, it has often contributed to me drinking far more than I should have. lol

I'll drink to that!

[lookout123]

and there you have it folks - fish lead to alcoholism. someone should do a study.

[Bullitt]

Originally Posted by lookout123

and there you have it folks - fish lead to alcoholism. someone should do a study.

On it.

[HungLikeJesus]

Is that what is meant by "beer battered fish"?