Partisan politics

[flaja]

Originally Posted by DanaC

No. She changes her physical state, but that doesn't mean she relinquishes control over her body. If a woman is giving birth, she gets to choose how and she gets to choose what medical assistance she will or will not have. All these things are the woman's decision. They weren't always, of course.

Letting a man put his penis in her does not give the man control over her body? Get real.

[DanaC]

Unless rape or incest is involved, the woman has already yielded control over her body to someone else when she got pregnant.

In what way has she given up control and to whom?

[DanaC]

Letting a man put his penis in her does not give the man control over her body? Get real.

Holy shit. Well that's an interesting take on it, flaja, it really is.

Of course, in your post you said she gave up that control when she got pregnant, not when she had sex. Do you believe women lose the right to control their bodies when they have sex?

[lookout123]

well, this flaja character is certainly the most interesting person to pop up in quite a while.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by lookout123

well, this flaja character is certainly the most interesting person to pop up in quite a while.

Radar re dux.

[flaja]

Originally Posted by DanaC

Holy shit. Well that's an interesting take on it, flaja, it really is.

Of course, in your post you said she gave up that control when she got pregnant, not when she had sex. Do you believe women lose the right to control their bodies when they have sex?

You do know how sex works, don’t you? No one can get pregnant without sex. Even with birth control that the woman takes care of herself, she runs the risk that the method used will fail or will have long-term health consequences for her even if it is successful in preventing pregnancy.

[classicman]

flaja & radar - seem to have a lot in common. I'm surprised he hasn't chimed in here at all.

[Griff]

Originally Posted by classicman

flaja & radar - seem to have a lot in common. I'm surprised he hasn't chimed in here at all.

If by having a lot in common, you mean holding diametrically opposed positions, then sure.

[lookout123]

stylisticly (sp) speaking, classic is right. they obviously subscribe to the same rules of order.

clodfobble, that is absolutely awesome. it didn't even occur to me to google that, but you left out my favorite. you have to get a load of this one.

[Aliantha]

I can't believe anyone could possibly think that a woman is giving up control of her body just because she chooses to have sex with someone. The woman makes that choice knowing the possible consequences. That's not losing control or giving up control. That's making an informed decision.

I can't believe anyone could have such antiquated ideas and still expect to be taken seriously. lol

[flaja]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

I can't believe anyone could possibly think that a woman is giving up control of her body just because she chooses to have sex with someone. The woman makes that choice knowing the possible consequences. That's not losing control or giving up control. That's making an informed decision.

I can't believe anyone could have such antiquated ideas and still expect to be taken seriously. lol

Putting your body at risk of disease, injury or pregnancy isn’t yielding control over it to the actions of someone else?

[classicman]

What does that have to do with relinquishing control of her body?

[flaja]

Originally Posted by classicman

What does that have to do with relinquishing control of her body?

Having sex means that a woman is giving someone else the opportunity to infect, injure or impregnate her body. By granting such an opportunity the woman is giving up control over her body.

[Happy Monkey]

Originally Posted by flaja

Having sex means that a woman is giving someone else the opportunity to infect, injure or impregnate her body. By granting such an opportunity the woman is giving up control over her body.

Walking down the street is giving someone else the opportunity to infect or injure your body.

[flaja]

Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Walking down the street is giving someone else the opportunity to infect or injure your body.

Merely walking down the street isn't going to make anyone pregnant.

A woman cannot rightfully complain about a baby being inside her body if she willfully allowed someone else to help put it there.