The Federal Government Has No Immigration Powers

[TheMercenary]

Illegal alien rapists.







http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?m=20071212

[Radar]

Looks like your racist propaganda photos are on a site that doesn't like hotlinking.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Radar

Looks like your racist propaganda photos are on a site that doesn't like hotlinking.

But Paully I can see them just fine.

[TheMercenary]

Some really cool T-shirts:

http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?page_id=2185

[TheMercenary]

Great set of links about illegal immigration as well:

http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/?page_id=1998

[TheMercenary]

by Matthew Quirk

How to Grow a Gang

With anti-immigrant sentiment rising, mass deportation is making a comeback. During fiscal 2006 and 2007, the number of deportation proceedings jumped from 64,000 to 164,000. This fiscal year, it is expected to hit 200,000, an all-time high.

Latino gang members have been targeted for particularly aggressive action. Since 2005, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) dragnets have swept up more than 6,000 suspected gangsters. From 2005 to 2007, arrests—usually preludes to deportation—increased more than fivefold.

The United States has been down this road before; the mid-1990s saw a similar wave of criminal deportations. That one helped turn a small gang from Los Angeles, Mara Salvatrucha (better known as MS-13), into an international menace and what Customs and Border Protection now calls America’s “most dangerous gang.” It’s not clear that this one will turn out much better.

MS-13 formed in the Rampart area of Los Angeles in 1988 or 1989. A civil war in El Salvador had displaced a fifth of that country’s population, and a small number of the roughly 300,000 Salvadorans living in L.A. banded together to form the gang. But MS-13 didn’t really take off until several years later, in El Salvador, after the U.S. adopted a get-tough policy on crime and immigration and began deporting first thousands, and then tens of thousands, of Central Americans each year, including many gang members.

Introduced into war-ravaged El Salvador, the gang spread quickly among demobilized soldiers and a younger generation accustomed to violence. Many deportees who had been only loosely affiliated with MS-13 in the U.S. became hard-core members after being stranded in a country they did not know, with only other gang members to rely on. As the gang proliferated and El Salvador tried to crack down on it, some deportees began finding their way back into the U.S.—in many cases bringing other, newly recruited gangsters with them. Deportation, incubation, and return: it’s a cycle we’ve been caught in ever since.

Today, MS-13 has perhaps 6,000 to 10,000 members in the United States. It has grown moderately in recent years and now has a presence in 43 states (up from 32 in 2003 and 15 in 1996). Most members of the gang are foreign-born. Since 2005, ICE has arrested about 2,000 of them; 13 percent have been deported before.

Salvadoran police report that 90 percent of deported gang members return to the U.S. After several spins through the deportation-and-return cycle, MS-13 members now control many of the “coyote” services that bring aliens up from Central America. Deportation—a free trip south—can be quite profitable for those gang members who bring others back with them upon their return.

The surge in arrests and deportations in the past three years coincides with a serious U.S. effort to improve coordination with Central American governments—the better to track gang members wherever they go. But states like El Salvador have a lot to keep track of these days. MS-13 and other gangs born in the United States now have 70,000 to 100,000 members in Central America, concentrated mostly in El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala. The murder rate in each of these countries is now higher than that of Colombia, long the murder capital of Latin America.

Meanwhile, the U.S. continues to repeat the mistakes it made in the ’90s. Most ICE arrests have been for immigration-related offenses, not criminal offenses. Suspected “associates” are lumped in with gang members, which only reinforces gang ties; with dabblers and minor offenders, experts agree that anti-gang intervention programs are better at preventing gangs’ growth. For hard-core gang members, quickie deportations on immigration charges are often no more than short-term fixes; lengthy American prison sentences would be more effective.

Only the U.S. has the law-enforcement personnel, the criminal-justice system, and the money to deal with the problem. Although the idea is poison in the current political climate, the way to get rid of these gangs, paradoxically, may involve keeping them here.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200805/world-in-numbers

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Well, let's see now... Radar's losing his argument on this thread and the Hillary v. McCain thread and in both he's offering to try and win with his fists.

Damn, what an evidence of a vauntedly superior mind.

Paul, you're going to have to accept that other people get it right, and for the right reasons. Failure to do so is immature and beneath you. At least it should be.

[Radar]

First, I've never been remotely near losing any argument to you in any thread ever. Next, I didn't offer to try to win an argument with my fists. I invited you to prove your point where you accused me of being a "pussy".

I do accept that other people get things right and for the right reasons. None of the people who get things right support federal immigration laws or the unconstitutional organizations who enforce them.

[jinx]

Originally Posted by Radar

I do accept that other people get things right and for the right reasons. None of the people who get things right support federal immigration laws or the unconstitutional organizations who enforce them.

Radar, since the Louisiana Purchase was unconstitutional, as the constitution gave the federal government no authority to purchase land, it would seem that by your argument the Unites States does not extend west of the Mississippi. Please discuss.

[Urbane Guerrilla]

Yeah? Then how about you start sounding like you do?

And you did offer to win the argument by beating up Merc. That is plain to any objective reader of those threads.

[Radar]

The Louisiana Purchase was indeed unconstitutional. If we hadn't made that purchase, we could have avoided the civil war. Also, we wouldn't have so many rednecks fucking up our elections. Even though I loved Jefferson, he was wrong to use government money to purchase this land....despite it being a really good deal.

They'd have been better off as a different country. My guess is by now, if we hadn't have purchased the land, it would still belong to America because France would have been lost in WWII. After Germany lost, we'd have gotten that land.

[jinx]

We wanted New Orleans, and those cheese eating surrender monkeys would have handed it over to us when (not if) we attempted to take it by force - but they probably would not have given us the rest of the territory. Who knows for sure how that would have affected us later as far as allegiences, but I doubt we'd have beaten Germany under a confederacy with fewer resources...

Regardless, the purchase was unconstitutional so it simply does not exist right? Just like immigration laws.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Radar

The Louisiana Purchase was indeed unconstitutional. If we hadn't made that purchase, we could have avoided the civil war. Also, we wouldn't have so many rednecks fucking up our elections. Even though I loved Jefferson, he was wrong to use government money to purchase this land....despite it being a really good deal.

They'd have been better off as a different country. My guess is by now, if we hadn't have purchased the land, it would still belong to America because France would have been lost in WWII. After Germany lost, we'd have gotten that land.

Now that is some funny shit. What a fucking idiot. Yea, you tell that to all the people West of the Mississippi. In this case you should give up your house and all your belongings to some illegal alien family. What a bunch of convoluted thinking. You have no idea what would have happened if we had not purchased the land.

[Clodfobble]

Let's also not forget that constitutionally, Texas is still an independent republic.

[Radar]

With you in Georgia, I can be certain America would be better off if all of the Louisiana Purchase were another country.