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03-19-2008, 03:54 PM
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I think this line's mostly filler.
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When it comes to fiery preachers condemning America, I'd rather they be doing it for our race relations problems than for gays and abortions.
And hey, at least we'll be seeing less of the "Obama's a secret Muslim!" stuff.
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03-19-2008, 03:56 PM
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03-19-2008, 03:58 PM
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Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya?
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03-19-2008, 04:00 PM
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did you point out that his middle name is Hussein? Old dude would have stroked out.
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03-19-2008, 03:56 PM
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barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy.
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03-19-2008, 04:08 PM
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03-19-2008, 04:11 PM
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that would explain how they got on the air, not how they maintain their ratings and advertising support.
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03-19-2008, 04:13 PM
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03-19-2008, 04:16 PM
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03-19-2008, 04:01 PM
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Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya?
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Ah, no...wasn't going there! I played incredulous for a moment then found my way elsewhere.
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03-19-2008, 04:07 PM
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Jerry Fallwell and Pat Robertson have preached hatred to the Republicans for decades (or did when alive). Does that mean anyone who is a member of their church or political party has a hatred of gays? Muslims? or any of the other groups they preached hate against? No.
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03-19-2008, 04:42 PM
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Religious beliefs aren't necessarily related to political beliefs and the political opinions of the minister are not necessarily shared by those who attend the church. It makes no sense for anyone to try to suggest that because a person attends a church, they must believe in everything said in a sermon. In fact since religion has no place in our government, nothing that happens in a church should ever be questioned regardless of what church it is, or what the minister is preaching.
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03-19-2008, 05:35 PM
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Disclaimer: I don't think Obama should be tossed out of the presidential race over this issue.
Radar I don't think you are getting what I'm saying. Forget about all the blowup dolls that pass as journalists today and they way they are blowing things up and taking them out of context. Now stop and think about this: The people you surround yourself with and the messages you freely choose to ingest repeatedly over a 20 year period speak to who you are and what you believe. Whether it is political, religious, or philosophical, you certainly have the right to listen, believe, and speak on any issue from any angle you want, but don't be surprised if someday you are held accountable for the beliefs you surround yourself with. My understanding is that White is well known for his rhetoric. I'm cool with that, it's his right. Obama has chosen to become and remain engaged with this man. That leaves two options: 1) Obama didn't ever agree with the man but became his mentee because of the political power he held and the influence he wields in Illinois, or 2) Obama did agree with the man but is now trying to distance himself so he can get into a bigger office. That is the real issue I want to know more about because, for me, it speaks to Obama's honesty vs. political cunning. We've been asked to back him because he is going to make a "clean break with the ways of the past". Awesome, I just want to know if his own past is compatible with his new Hope.
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03-19-2008, 06:12 PM
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I think this line's mostly filler.
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4) Obama originally agreed with him, and as he matured he moved away philosophically, but not personally, like one might do with a parent with different politics.
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03-19-2008, 06:19 PM
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These people have repeated their nonsense to me for nearly 4 decades and my political views are not swayed by any of them in the least. There is no correlation between the people you associate yourself with and your political beliefs. I don't care what anyone says other than the candidate himself. I don't care who his friends or family are, whom they have sex with, what religion they follow, etc. None of these have any bearing on the candidate's ability to lead or of that person's character.
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