Impeding changes to our Health Care system

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Nothing in the Demoncratic Healthcare Reform Bills would protect anyone from these kinds of increases. That is the point I have been bringing up for months. This increase is how the insurance companies will recoup any cost increases they incur with the proposed plans. The fact that they are unregulated is not addressed in the proposed plans; the fact that they are in an uncompetitive market is not addressed in the proposed plans, although I do recall the Republickins introducing a proposal for there to be greater competition in a free market across state lines. Nothing in the proposed plans on the table would prevent an insurance company from doing this in the future.

And I have said repeatedly that you should actually read the text of the legislation (that I cited on numerous occasions) and not just opposition talking points and you would find that your assertions are in fact, incorrect.

And what the Republican proposal would have allowed is for the insurance companies to shop around for the least regulated state, including American Samoa, and apply those lowest standards across the board for consumers in any state in which the company has nexus.

But at this point, it really doesnt matter.

Have a healthy and truthful day!

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Redux

And I have said repeatedly that you should actually read the text of the legislation (that I cited on numerous occasions) and not just opposition talking points and you would find that your assertions are in fact, incorrect.

No my friend I have read it and there is nothing there to prevent it as I have stated numerous times over the last 6 months.

[TheMercenary]

silly.

[xoxoxoBruce]

Unless you're the one dying.

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

silly.

Oh? A study done by Harvard last fall showed that 45,000 Americans die every year due to lack of health insurance. Doesn't seem very silly to me.

[classicman]

How many people die each year from smoking or alcohol or drugs? I'm not bitching, just curious what the numbers are in relation.

[SamIam]

I don't see what that has to do with the discussion at hand. Alcoholics with insurance will go to treatment facilities and have a better chance of recovery than the ones in the park passing the paper bag. The morality so called of a disease should have nothing to do with its treatment.

[classicman]

I said I was just curious - What does the number of people killed by terrorists have to do with heathcare?

[Griff]

Originally Posted by classicman

I said I was just curious - What does the number of people killed by terrorists have to do with heathcare?

Which one is the more significant threat to American health and welfare based on hype vs. reality?

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by classicman

I said I was just curious - What does the number of people killed by terrorists have to do with heathcare?

We're outraged by one and not the other.

[classicman]

Redux - just a thought here -
Why cannot we merge a system of regulation by the Feds with the state option. Won't the fed regulations on what they can charge... cover the insureds?
I'm really just sick of this at this point.

[Spexxvet]

How 'bout starting with a simple "hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, and health insurance companies will be not-for-profit"

Originally Posted by classicman

Redux - just a thought here -
Why cannot we merge a system of regulation by the Feds with the state option. Won't the fed regulations on what they can charge... cover the insureds?
I'm really just sick of this at this point.

That is pretty much with the Senate did in its version

State-administered Exchanges with states having the option to opt out..and with federal statutory standards for coverage option with limits co-pays andout-of-pocket cost and required certification and approval of premium increases...the details of which would be in the regulations.

Subtitle D
PART I—Establishment of Qualified Health Plans

PART II—Consumer Choices and Insurance Competition....


But, by now, I'm tired or repeating myself.

[TheMercenary]

Subtitle D deals with drug plans.

Subtitle D – Medicare Part D Improvements for Prescription Drug Plans and MA–PD Plans

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Subtitle D deals with drug plans.

Subtitle D – Medicare Part D Improvements for Prescription Drug Plans and MA–PD Plans

It would probably help if you looked at the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act as passed by the Senate:

Title I - Subtitle D - Parts I (establisment of qualified plans) , Part II (consumer choice and insurance competition), Part III and IV (state flexibility)