2008 Banned Words - Page 3

Clodfobble · 01-15-2008, 10:24 PM

A couple of different dictionaries seem to imply that "visiting" is of an indeterminate length of time, while "visitation" is a single instance of a visit. A "visiting professor," for example, comes for a couple of years, and then leaves, rather than coming back and forth on a regular basis.

But etymology of it notwithstanding, "visitation" is the official legal term in all American custody cases and is almost never used in any other context.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-15-2008, 11:17 PM

How can anyone, in this country, not know what visitation means when it's on the news forty times a day?

Perry Winkle · 01-16-2008, 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

How can anyone, in this country, not know what visitation means when it's on the news forty times a day?

I'm pretty sure we all know what it means. I'm just trying to figure out why 'visiting rights' sounds wrong to me. Style? Accustomed usage? Is it actually ungrammatical in my dialect of English?

I think it's probably the very reason you cite: visitation rights is pretty ubiquitous in the States.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-16-2008, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perry Winkle

I'm pretty sure we all know what it means. I'm just trying to figure out why 'visiting rights' sounds wrong to me. Style? Accustomed usage? Is it actually ungrammatical in my dialect of English?

I think it's probably the very reason you cite: visitation rights is pretty ubiquitous in the States.

Simply because 'visiting rights' is not what you're use to hearing on the news 40 times a day. There are a lot of correct English words that sound strange because they are seldom used. See any UG post.

DanaC · 01-16-2008, 04:02 AM

Is it 'visiting times' or 'visitation times' at a hospital? Is 'visitation' mainly used in the legal context (except when referring to 'a visitation') ?

Shawnee123 · 01-16-2008, 10:13 AM

OK, to add to banned words:

Using "that" instead of "who." For example "People who love spaghetti will love this new restaurant" rather than "people that love spaghetti will love this new restaurant."

For some reason, in the past year or so, using "that" when "who" is more appropriate is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

robsterman1 · 01-16-2008, 10:24 AM

So now we have language police, LOL

Shawnee123 · 01-16-2008, 10:28 AM

So now we have idiots, LOL.

Hey numnuts, the thread calls for adding to the list of words you want to see "banned" in 2008. Banned in context, because you know we'll need words like 'surge' for use in, say, electrical discussions.

LOL

LOL

classicman · 01-16-2008, 01:13 PM

"robsterman1"

xoxoxoBruce · 01-16-2008, 02:56 PM

classicman · 01-16-2008, 03:08 PM

sorry - I couldn't resist.

xoxoxoBruce · 01-16-2008, 03:37 PM

Thou art grated dispensation for the sin of, stating the obvious.

classicman · 01-16-2008, 04:07 PM

You mean I have an incredible perception of the obvious?

Actually I menat to type in "Aretha's Doctor", but Freud convinced me otherwise

xoxoxoBruce · 01-16-2008, 04:48 PM

Possibly prophetic powers of prognostication, or possibly perception of the peoples pulse.

Flint · 01-21-2008, 09:59 AM

"lock and load"

01-15-2008, 11:17 PM	#2
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	How can anyone, in this country, not know what visitation means when it's on the news forty times a day? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-16-2008, 10:24 AM	#7
robsterman1 A worldly dude Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Hartford, CT USA Posts: 127	So now we have language police, LOL __________________ Live life on the BETTER side :-)

01-16-2008, 10:28 AM	#8
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	So now we have idiots, LOL. Hey numnuts, the thread calls for adding to the list of words you want to see "banned" in 2008. Banned in context, because you know we'll need words like 'surge' for use in, say, electrical discussions. LOL LOL Last edited by Shawnee123; 01-16-2008 at 10:28 AM. Reason: I forgot another LOL

01-16-2008, 01:13 PM	#9
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	"robsterman1" __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-16-2008, 02:56 PM	#10
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	__________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-15-2008, 10:24 PM	#1
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	A couple of different dictionaries seem to imply that "visiting" is of an indeterminate length of time, while "visitation" is a single instance of a visit. A "visiting professor," for example, comes for a couple of years, and then leaves, rather than coming back and forth on a regular basis. But etymology of it notwithstanding, "visitation" is the official legal term in all American custody cases and is almost never used in any other context.

01-16-2008, 04:02 AM	#5
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	Is it 'visiting times' or 'visitation times' at a hospital? Is 'visitation' mainly used in the legal context (except when referring to 'a visitation') ?

01-16-2008, 10:13 AM	#6
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	OK, to add to banned words: Using "that" instead of "who." For example "People who love spaghetti will love this new restaurant" rather than "people that love spaghetti will love this new restaurant." For some reason, in the past year or so, using "that" when "who" is more appropriate is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.

01-16-2008, 03:08 PM	#11
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	sorry - I couldn't resist. __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-16-2008, 03:37 PM	#12
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Thou art grated dispensation for the sin of, stating the obvious. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-16-2008, 04:07 PM	#13
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	You mean I have an incredible perception of the obvious? Actually I menat to type in "Aretha's Doctor", but Freud convinced me otherwise __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

01-16-2008, 04:48 PM	#14
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Possibly prophetic powers of prognostication, or possibly perception of the peoples pulse. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

01-21-2008, 09:59 AM	#15
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