Is being gay morally wrong? - Page 2

Ibby · 12-17-2007, 10:47 PM

I believe not only that homosexuality is not morally wrong, I believe that it's really fucking awesome.

but seriously though, i actually have a little bit of a problem with monosexuality in general, be it gay or straight. Not like, a PROBLEM problem, but... something about it just strikes me as, wrong. I have trouble wrapping my head around it sometimes.

Mockingbird · 12-20-2007, 01:08 AM

I like Ayn Rand so anytime I hear anything at all about Kant or what he had to say about anything, I smash something fragile.

That said, I don't think the act of sex with someone you love is wrong under any decent code of ethics. Love is love and it doesn't really matter what diddly parts you happen to have. I think a majority of people should probably just mind their own business if they have something to say about who someone can and can't love.

Sheldonrs · 01-03-2008, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ibram

I believe not only that homosexuality is not morally wrong, I believe that it's really fucking awesome.

What's Awesome' last name? I may know him. lol!!!

deadbeater · 12-17-2007, 11:10 PM

Oh, so you're bi, aren't ya, Ibram?

piercehawkeye45 · 12-17-2007, 11:11 PM

Eh, I wouldn't be surprised if humans were a little bit bisexual in nature.

History and the present back this view up well. Egypt, Greece, and I'm sure many other ancient cultures were entirely accepting and even encouraging of bisexuality and right now we see a lot of bisexuality in girls since it is socially acceptable. If it was socially acceptable for males to be bisexuals, I would almost guarantee it would be just as common as what you see with girls.

Cloud · 12-17-2007, 11:23 PM

It depends on the morals of people doing the judging. For some, I'm sure it is.

I don't trust other people's assertion of what is moral or right or wrong, nor do I much care. For me, if I chose to make such a judgment, no.

Make that a HELL NO!

Drax · 12-17-2007, 11:23 PM

Nope.

Whether it's a choice or not, I don't know, but there's nothing wrong with being gay.

xoxoxoBruce · 12-18-2007, 07:05 AM

If it feels good, do it.

monster · 12-18-2007, 07:16 AM

Doesn't look like anyone who feels it is wants to chime in. case closed.

classicman · 12-18-2007, 07:21 AM

I think its an individual decision - its between them and their "whatever." To each his own, ya know?

LabRat · 12-18-2007, 09:29 AM

Trying to define sexuality is like trying to define a color, or a flavor... You can't really, because the experience is unique to each and every one of us.

The same of "morality" in my opinion. Each of us has a very unique set of experiences that have defined who we are up until every point in our lives, until death. The longer we live, more experiences are added to the pile of things we weigh in making decisions. What we may have been for or against 5 years ago may be drastically different than now, or 5 years from now. Or even 5 days...

For example: my own sexuality. Many years ago, I would have said I was completely straight. Since then, I have had homosexual experiences, and in fact find both women and men sexually attractive. Those experiences, in addition to the fact that I am a lot less ignorant than I was 15 years ago (from both reading and talking to people about sex in general) has led me to scrap trying to define sexuality at all.

Who and what turns me on from day to day is always evolving. I am just (horny little ole) me.

mac_tire_daingean · 12-18-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LabRat

Trying to define sexuality is like trying to define a color, or a flavor... You can't really, because the experience is unique to each and every one of us.

The same of "morality" in my opinion. Each of us has a very unique set of experiences that have defined who we are up until every point in our lives, until death.

wow. Very well put, LabRat. I remember when I was 18 and had a completely different viewpoint on both sexuality and morality than I do now. Having been raised in a more religious tradition I didn't feel I was judging gays, but that at the core it was morally wrong and unhealthy. While I also felt that *gasp* fornicating was wrong, I didn't seem to have a problem justifying that one. 18 feels like a long time ago now and I find it interesting that my parents still pretty much have the same views they did then on sexuality/morality, yet mine have expanded to the point where I think (and live by) the only limitation should be whatever that individual chooses for themselves.

Cloud · 12-18-2007, 10:39 AM

I have a lot more problems with the words "morally" and "wrong" than I do with "gay."

TheMercenary · 12-18-2007, 10:55 AM

The larger question is not about homosexuality but about what is "morality" and who has the right to project their morals on others.

piercehawkeye45 · 12-18-2007, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMercenary

The larger question is not about homosexuality but about what is "morality" and who has the right to project their morals on others.

Yes.

Personally, I define morality as as a set of ethics that guide the interaction between a group of people (2+). Ethics will have to be defined as what is right and wrong.

That is why I can't see how homosexuality can be seen as immoral or even a morality issue in a sociological sense. Unless you get really picky, whether a person is a homosexual, heterosexual, or bisexual, it really doesn't affect anyone else. The only way I can see it being a morality issue is if it is one forced upon us by a higher power or a person in power. But that should not happen in the United States being a secular democracy (republic).

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12-17-2007, 10:47 PM	#1
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	I believe not only that homosexuality is not morally wrong, I believe that it's really fucking awesome. but seriously though, i actually have a little bit of a problem with monosexuality in general, be it gay or straight. Not like, a PROBLEM problem, but... something about it just strikes me as, wrong. I have trouble wrapping my head around it sometimes. __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

12-20-2007, 01:08 AM	#2
Mockingbird Master of hand to mouth living Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Tulsa, Okla Posts: 189	I like Ayn Rand so anytime I hear anything at all about Kant or what he had to say about anything, I smash something fragile. That said, I don't think the act of sex with someone you love is wrong under any decent code of ethics. Love is love and it doesn't really matter what diddly parts you happen to have. I think a majority of people should probably just mind their own business if they have something to say about who someone can and can't love. __________________ When you're low it's either wave that flag or stand there empty-handed. -- Achewood

12-17-2007, 11:23 PM	#6
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	It depends on the morals of people doing the judging. For some, I'm sure it is. I don't trust other people's assertion of what is moral or right or wrong, nor do I much care. For me, if I chose to make such a judgment, no. Make that a HELL NO! __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

12-18-2007, 07:05 AM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	If it feels good, do it. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

12-17-2007, 11:10 PM	#4
deadbeater Sir Post-A-Lot Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 439	Oh, so you're bi, aren't ya, Ibram?

12-17-2007, 11:11 PM	#5
piercehawkeye45 Franklin Pierce Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,695	Eh, I wouldn't be surprised if humans were a little bit bisexual in nature. History and the present back this view up well. Egypt, Greece, and I'm sure many other ancient cultures were entirely accepting and even encouraging of bisexuality and right now we see a lot of bisexuality in girls since it is socially acceptable. If it was socially acceptable for males to be bisexuals, I would almost guarantee it would be just as common as what you see with girls.

12-17-2007, 11:23 PM	#7
Drax Banned Join Date: May 2007 Location: Gallman, MS, USA Posts: 1,933	Nope. Whether it's a choice or not, I don't know, but there's nothing wrong with being gay.

12-18-2007, 07:16 AM	#9
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Doesn't look like anyone who feels it is wants to chime in. case closed. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

12-18-2007, 07:21 AM	#10
classicman barely disguised asshole, keeper of all that is holy. Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 23,401	I think its an individual decision - its between them and their "whatever." To each his own, ya know? __________________ "like strapping a pillow on a bull in a china shop" Bullitt

12-18-2007, 09:29 AM	#11
LabRat twatfaced two legged bumhole Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,143	Trying to define sexuality is like trying to define a color, or a flavor... You can't really, because the experience is unique to each and every one of us. The same of "morality" in my opinion. Each of us has a very unique set of experiences that have defined who we are up until every point in our lives, until death. The longer we live, more experiences are added to the pile of things we weigh in making decisions. What we may have been for or against 5 years ago may be drastically different than now, or 5 years from now. Or even 5 days... For example: my own sexuality. Many years ago, I would have said I was completely straight. Since then, I have had homosexual experiences, and in fact find both women and men sexually attractive. Those experiences, in addition to the fact that I am a lot less ignorant than I was 15 years ago (from both reading and talking to people about sex in general) has led me to scrap trying to define sexuality at all. Who and what turns me on from day to day is always evolving. I am just (horny little ole) me. __________________ Strength does not come from how much weight you can lift, or how many miles you can run. It comes from knowing that you set a goal, and rose to the challenge. Strength comes from within.

12-18-2007, 10:39 AM	#13
Cloud ... Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 8,360	I have a lot more problems with the words "morally" and "wrong" than I do with "gay." __________________ "Guard your honor. Let your reputation fall where it will. And outlive the bastards!"

12-18-2007, 10:55 AM	#14
TheMercenary “Hypocrisy: prejudice with a halo” Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Savannah, Georgia Posts: 21,393	The larger question is not about homosexuality but about what is "morality" and who has the right to project their morals on others. __________________ Anyone but the this most fuked up President in History in 2012!

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