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Old 05-30-2007, 08:00 PM   #1
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Everyone executed has been proven guilty by the legal system.
Saying the legal system can't be 100% perfect does not mean the must be executing innocent people.
Oh, Bruce. The possibility exists that an innocent person could be executed. Point-Blank Question: Do you agree? Yes or No?

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If they are in your state then do something about it. I'm comfortable with mine.
Going on the offensive, huh? Nice.
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:20 PM   #2
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Oh, Bruce. The possibility exists that an innocent person could be executed. Point-Blank Question: Do you agree? Yes or No?
Fuck your yes or no, you don't tell me my options, I told you that before.
Not everything can be broken down to simple flow charts, in the real world. The real world has too many variables for that.

I don't believe my state is going to execute any innocent people. I said that before, also.
If you have some moral objections to executing criminals, don't do it.
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:34 PM   #3
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Fuck your yes or no, you don't tell me my options, I told you that before.
What is wrong with the formulation of Flint's question? Is there something misleading about the question itself? Are there more options than yes or no? If so, what are they?
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:34 PM   #4
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You go ahead with your murderous ranting... done with you. You just want to see people killed and could care less who they are.
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:40 PM   #5
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You go ahead with your murderous ranting... done with you. You just want to see people killed and could care less who they are.
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Old 05-30-2007, 01:41 PM   #6
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You go ahead with your murderous ranting... done with you. You just want to see people killed and could care less who they are.
More opinion. And you are welcome to it. As I am mine.
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Old 05-30-2007, 03:07 PM   #7
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we could solve this with a 30 cent bullet
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:55 PM   #8
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Bruce is right, it just says there will be a chance that you will execute an innocent person, not that you will. We probably wouldn't know if we executed an innocent person anyways.

I am against captial punishment because I don't see the need of killing someone. Let them perform community service and manuel labor for the rest of their lives, it will at least be useful.
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Old 05-30-2007, 07:57 PM   #9
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Bruce is right, it just says there will be a chance that you will execute an innocent person, not that you will. We probably wouldn't know if we executed an innocent person anyways.

I am against captial punishment because I don't see the need of killing someone. Let them perform community service and manuel labor for the rest of their lives, it will at least be useful.
Nice comfy thought but I don't think I want guys on death row doing community service.
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:04 PM   #10
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Nice comfy thought but I don't think I want guys on death row doing community service.
Well, certain community servicies.

I was thinking more on the lines of cleaning up communities and making it look nicer, writing books for kids, making music, and giving speeches at schools to help avoid the path that they took. The personal community service is obviously off-limits.
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:10 PM   #11
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Well, certain community servicies.

I was thinking more on the lines of cleaning up communities and making it look nicer, writing books for kids, making music, and giving speeches at schools to help avoid the path that they took. The personal community service is obviously off-limits.
Yea, John Wayne Gracy writing kids books, that would be a hit...
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Old 05-30-2007, 09:37 PM   #12
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Yea, John Wayne Gracy writing kids books, that would be a hit...
I can't give a link but it has been done already and from what I've heard, has been effective as well.
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:05 PM   #13
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Bruce is right, it just says there will be a chance that you will execute an innocent person, not that you will.
We probably wouldn't know if we executed an innocent person anyways.
You don't have to tell me "Bruce is right" - he just repeated what I've been saying that all along.

The fact that we wouldn't specifically know an innocent person was executed doesn't mean it couldn't happen, or render it "okay" via anonymity.
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:07 PM   #14
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I skipped through the middle part because it looked like you were going over the same thing.

I thought you said that it was inevitable that we would kill an innocent person and I disagreed with that. Sorry if I misunderstood you.
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:49 PM   #15
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I thought you said that it was inevitable that we would kill an innocent person and I disagreed with that. Sorry if I misunderstood you.
No problem. If I mis-worded aything to give you that impression, at any point, I officially retract it and apologize for the misunderstanding.
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