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Aliantha · 05-17-2007, 08:54 PM

If you move the shit do you need to get a passport for it?

xoxoxoBruce · 05-17-2007, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

If you move the shit do you need to get a passport for it?

He can't move it, it has full rights as a citizen of Big V's yard. He'll just have to accept it and learn to get along. On the bright side, it'll probably fertilize his grass for substandard wage.

Aliantha · 05-17-2007, 09:02 PM

Surely there must be systems in place for the children of illegal immigrants who are deported. I can't believe American citizens would just leave a child in the street to fend for itself.

bluecuracao · 05-17-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Surely there must be systems in place for the children of illegal immigrants who are deported. I can't believe American citizens would just leave a child in the street to fend for itself.

I'm sure there are instances of older kids in their teens remaining here on their own, just as there are teens whose parents are citizens who live on their own. But I think most of the kids who stay here are either left with relatives, or put into foster care.

There are definitely not hordes of deported immigrants' children roaming the streets here.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-17-2007, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bluecuracao

I'm sure there are instances of older kids in their teens remaining here on their own, just as there are teens whose parents are citizens who live on their own.

You'll never convince me that is a desirable situation.

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But I think most of the kids who stay here are either left with relatives, or put into foster care.

Who's paying for the foster care? Do you really believe the spawn are better off in foster care than with their families? That's just crazy talk.

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There are definitely not hordes of deported immigrants' children roaming the streets here.

Nor did I say there were, yet. I'm saying nip it in the bud. An ounce of prevention and all that.

Oh, and guest workers have to be spayed or neutered.

bluecuracao · 05-17-2007, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

You'll never convince me that is a desirable situation. Who's paying for the foster care? Do you really believe the spawn are better off in foster care than with their families? That's just crazy talk.

Where did I say that was a desirable situation, or that foster care is better.

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Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

Nor did I say there were, yet. I'm saying nip it in the bud. An ounce of prevention and all that.

Oh, and guest workers have to be spayed or neutered.

Why do you say guest workers should be spayed or neutered? They're not dogs, despite your fucked-up analogy.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-17-2007, 11:12 PM

I was yanking your chain.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-17-2007, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bluecuracao

Where did I say that was a desirable situation, or that foster care is better.

Great, then we agree the little darlings would be better off with their parents.
Um... that's what I proposed.

Aliantha · 05-17-2007, 09:10 PM

It'll probably do it for nothing if he leaves it to it's own devices.

See, shit does perform a valuable service to society.

bluecuracao · 05-17-2007, 09:24 PM

She wasn't your responsibility, she was her mother's and her own. She wasn't anyone's "problem."

If you consider say, U.S. citizen kids' public education to be a "problem," that's too bad; you can't do anything about it unless you decide not to pay your taxes.

xoxoxoBruce · 05-17-2007, 09:27 PM

Then she's a moot point, because her mother took care of her.
That's what I want, the parents to be responsible for their children and not dump them on society.

bluecuracao · 05-17-2007, 09:30 PM

So, just so you could be mad about something, you made up this national crisis in your head, where vast numbers of undocumented immigrants are dumping their kids on society?

xoxoxoBruce · 05-17-2007, 10:38 PM

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So, just so you could be mad about something, you made up this national crisis in your head, where vast numbers of undocumented immigrants are dumping their kids on society?

Now stop that.
I got from the article that started this, "particularly in the separation of children from their parents". My answer to that is take 'em with you until they are 18, or provide a trust fund to care for them so they are not dumped on the streets or anywhere else.

You and that other apologist for the criminals, were all up in arms about deporting the spawn, but had no solution what to do with the little buggers, except don't deport the criminals. That's not an acceptable solution.

bluecuracao · 05-17-2007, 10:46 PM

If the new bill is passed, that will be the official solution, acceptable to you or not. The punishment will be a fine, not deportation (if they are otherwise law-abiding).

xoxoxoBruce · 05-17-2007, 10:53 PM

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If the new bill is passed, that will be the official solution, acceptable to you or not. The punishment will be a fine, not deportation (if they are otherwise law-abiding).

You better read past the headline, in addition to the $5k, they also have to go home, learn English and wait in line to come back according to the news this evening.

05-17-2007, 08:54 PM	#1
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	If you move the shit do you need to get a passport for it? __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-17-2007, 09:02 PM	#3
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Surely there must be systems in place for the children of illegal immigrants who are deported. I can't believe American citizens would just leave a child in the street to fend for itself. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-17-2007, 11:12 PM	#7
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	I was yanking your chain. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-17-2007, 09:10 PM	#9
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	It'll probably do it for nothing if he leaves it to it's own devices. See, shit does perform a valuable service to society. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

05-17-2007, 09:27 PM	#11
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Then she's a moot point, because her mother took care of her. That's what I want, the parents to be responsible for their children and not dump them on society. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

05-17-2007, 09:24 PM	#10
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	She wasn't your responsibility, she was her mother's and her own. She wasn't anyone's "problem." If you consider say, U.S. citizen kids' public education to be a "problem," that's too bad; you can't do anything about it unless you decide not to pay your taxes.

05-17-2007, 09:30 PM	#12
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	So, just so you could be mad about something, you made up this national crisis in your head, where vast numbers of undocumented immigrants are dumping their kids on society?

05-17-2007, 10:46 PM	#14
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	If the new bill is passed, that will be the official solution, acceptable to you or not. The punishment will be a fine, not deportation (if they are otherwise law-abiding).

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