Kids and the Internet

[Aliantha]

I'm fairly familiar with how teenagers think. I'm also aware that teenagers have a lot to offer and that it's what we do as parents which affects how they are as adults.

I don't see the point in treating a teenager as if they have no self determination when they obviously, and rightly do have self determination. A teenager, like any other human being, knows what they want, and if given the opportunity will be able to explain why they want it. They, like the rest of us, are products of their environment up until they are released from parental controls at which time they are answerable and responsible for and to themselves. It's at this time that the true indication of a good versus bad parenting becomes apparent.

I would rather over estimate than under estimate my child although I intend to make sure I do neither. It's nice just to know that they're doing ok and to see the outcomes of allowing them room to think for themselves.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Aliantha

I'm fairly familiar with how teenagers think. I'm also aware that teenagers have a lot to offer and that it's what we do as parents which affects how they are as adults.

I don't see the point in treating a teenager as if they have no self determination when they obviously, and rightly do have self determination. A teenager, like any other human being, knows what they want, and if given the opportunity will be able to explain why they want it. They, like the rest of us, are products of their environment up until they are released from parental controls at which time they are answerable and responsible for and to themselves. It's at this time that the true indication of a good versus bad parenting becomes apparent.

I would rather over estimate than under estimate my child although I intend to make sure I do neither. It's nice just to know that they're doing ok and to see the outcomes of allowing them room to think for themselves.

I respect that view and agree.

[monster]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I respect that view and agree.

How does your method "allow them room to think for themselves"? This is not a challenge but a genuine question. You may call me a bitch/troll/whatever for asking if it makes you feel good, but I'd rather that than no answer as this seems so contrary to your previous posts. Curious.

And how is gay porn worse than straight porn? I have no real interest in either, so perhaps I'm not the best judge, but I've seen both and it didn't affect my sexuality.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by monster

How does your method "allow them room to think for themselves"? This is not a challenge but a genuine question. You may call me a bitch/troll/whatever for asking if it makes you feel good, but I'd rather that than no answer as this seems so contrary to your previous posts. Curious.

I guess I could just coat their hands with superglue on a gasoline filled bottle and let them learn what it is like to get burned....

Monster: Please can I coat it with superglue then light it while he's still holding it? What a troll. No wonder he has to exert such excessive parental control -his short-tempered paranoid name-calling aggression must have his kids hiding everything from him for fear of reprisals.

And how is gay porn worse than straight porn? I have no real interest in either, so perhaps I'm not the best judge, but I've seen both and it didn't affect my sexuality.

I guess I don't think kids should look at porn. Adults have the right to look at porn anytime they want. But I don't consider Playboy and artistic nudity porn.

[bluecuracao]

Playboy is porn, just labeled soft-core porn nowadays.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

Playboy is porn, just labeled soft-core porn nowadays.

I know that your man told you that after he poured gasoline in your glass and superguled it to your hand. Just watch where you put your fingers after that. I would hate to hear that you had a chemical burn in your crotch.

[bluecuracao]

You have quite a vivid imagination, there.

[bluecuracao]

Whoops...I was giving your imagination too much credit. Looks like you're confusing me with someone else. Pay attention, big dummy.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

Looks like you're confusing me with someone else.

Well, ummmm, actually no, I wasn't.

[bluecuracao]

So, ummmm, you're just insulting me with crass crap for nothing. How sweet.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by bluecuracao

So, ummmm, you're just insulting me with crass crap for nothing. How sweet.

You get what you give.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You get what you give.

But only when it's negative.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by glatt

But only when it's negative.

Correct.

edit: I actually had a better explaination written but it sounded to much like a whine, so I will refrain.

[bluecuracao]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

You get what you give.

Is that right.

What exactly did I "give" to inspire your nasty little tirade? From where I'm standing, it looks like all anyone has to do is disagree with you.

[monster]

You didn't answer the question, Merc..... You agree that kids should be allowed room to think for themselves, yet you don't allow that freedom for your kids. Which id your personalities makes the compromise in the real world?

btw, if you like the petrol bomb analogy, let's follow through.....you said

I guess I could just coat their hands with superglue on a gasoline filled bottle and let them learn what it is like to get burned....

But once you've superglued their hands to that can, will they go for the matches or the acetone and nail files? Or did you assume they'd go for the matches and light one for them to save them the effort?