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Old 02-18-2007, 12:34 AM   #1
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I spend a lot of time in the hospital and in Dr.s offices and have been in the hospital a lot lately.
When you are in the damn hospital two things really suck about it.

You can't leave.
You really don't want to piss-off the people keeping you alive/caring for you, depending on your trip.

Same goes for the Dr's. office to a smaller degree.

Every time I'm in the hospital and often in the hospital I get preached at and I'm fucking sick of it. These hospitals get state funding, there has to be a separation of Church and State issue here.
No I do not want to "pray about it". If I thought that a god intervened in people's lives he/she/they/it would have done this to me to begin with and they can suck my dick for a month.
On the same note, nor do I think "the lord loves me", if it does, I could give two shits. (given, if I thought there was one)
They, sometimes, believe it or not, ask me "if I've found Jesus?", I usually give some half answer that they always take as affirmation because it is what they want to hear.
This is not nurses alone, Dr.s & techs do this all the time, it's f***ing crazy.
Do your job people.
A person's spirituality is personal and none of anyone's damn business.
The crazy thing is that I don't have anything put on my chart, so they know I'm not a Christian, or I would have had them put it there.
They see someone in horrible pain, dealing with the stuff I deal with and they want to chat about religion, recruiting?
The quickest way I can think of to turn someone off of it... this from me who has studied it for over twenty years. Sick, just sick.
I'm not talking once a trip, I'm talking daily, several times.
Dr. visits are not so often, but it comes up with fair regularity.
The message of Christ is dead.
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Old 02-18-2007, 01:41 AM   #2
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That sucks, rkzenrage.

Is there any way possible you can see humor in their crap?

"I didn't have to find Jesus, he hog-tied me and dragged me over to you all"

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Old 02-18-2007, 08:32 AM   #3
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I found Jesus, he was mowing my lawn.

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Old 02-18-2007, 10:05 AM   #4
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I spend a lot of time in the hospital and in Dr.s offices and have been in the hospital a lot lately.
When you are in the damn hospital two things really suck about it.

You can't leave.
You really don't want to piss-off the people keeping you alive/caring for you, depending on your trip.

Same goes for the Dr's. office to a smaller degree.

Every time I'm in the hospital and often in the hospital I get preached at and I'm fucking sick of it. These hospitals get state funding, there has to be a separation of Church and State issue here.
No I do not want to "pray about it". If I thought that a god intervened in people's lives he/she/they/it would have done this to me to begin with and they can suck my dick for a month.
On the same note, nor do I think "the lord loves me", if it does, I could give two shits. (given, if I thought there was one)
They, sometimes, believe it or not, ask me "if I've found Jesus?", I usually give some half answer that they always take as affirmation because it is what they want to hear.
This is not nurses alone, Dr.s & techs do this all the time, it's f***ing crazy.
Do your job people.
A person's spirituality is personal and none of anyone's damn business.
The crazy thing is that I don't have anything put on my chart, so they know I'm not a Christian, or I would have had them put it there.
They see someone in horrible pain, dealing with the stuff I deal with and they want to chat about religion, recruiting?
The quickest way I can think of to turn someone off of it... this from me who has studied it for over twenty years. Sick, just sick.
I'm not talking once a trip, I'm talking daily, several times.
Dr. visits are not so often, but it comes up with fair regularity.
The message of Christ is dead.
Amen.
Sorry you have to deal with this crap. Tell them youre an Alchemist.
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Old 02-17-2007, 10:39 AM   #5
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I guess I've never understood the supposed point of them anyway. (Much like New Jersey's jug-handles.)
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Old 02-17-2007, 11:17 AM   #6
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I guess I've never understood the supposed point of them anyway. (Much like New Jersey's jug-handles.)
Jughandles, the Little Ferry Circle, the old 4/17 interchange...



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Old 02-17-2007, 11:26 AM   #7
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Old 02-18-2007, 10:32 AM   #8
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When they ask you if you have found Jesus, you can always tell them you weren't looking for him, you didn't lose him, because you didn't have him last.

That should deter 'em.
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Old 02-18-2007, 12:07 PM   #9
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rk that must really piss you off. I can only imagine how frustrating that must be. Doesn't happen much over here (I don't think) because most of our Christian culture isn't evangelical in nature (it's more tea and scones and village fete, with a bit of fire and brimstone to keep it interesting). Though, that's changing. Congregations to traditional C of E is falling, but take up rate on newer evangelical groups is growing quite fast.

I do wonder though, and this is not in any way to deny how annoying it must be....and far be it from me to defend the happyclappers, but maybe they're not so much trying to recruit, as to offer the thing that they truly believe will bring some kind of comfort to a person they know to be suffering pain and distress. Doesn't in any way mitigate the fact that they are breaching what should be a strong divide (religion and state), but it may mitigate their motives a little. I think they're wrong....but they may just be trying to do their best for you in terms they understand.
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Old 02-18-2007, 04:10 PM   #10
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I would if it were not so constant and if I were not in a position of having to be in their care and at their mercy.
There is a reason we fill out the religion section of the paperwork upon checking-in.
Even if it were just once a trip or so... it is not.
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Old 02-18-2007, 04:34 PM   #11
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You screwed up leaving religion blank. You're in Terri Shivo land, blank means Christian by default. Put down the Temple of Lucky Charms, or something, if you don't want to enter Buddhist as a religion.

I think Dana is on the money about them offering comfort rather than recruiting. I also think if you told them they would stop without affecting their professionalism.
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Old 02-18-2007, 04:52 PM   #12
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They often get insulted and sometimes it affects their performance.
Otherwise there would not be a problem.
You have to understand, evangelicals and baptists from the south don't work like regular christians. I have been in a church when we were told that "God loves Us more than Them". They think that non-christians are less and are not worthy of being treated with equal politeness. I grew-up here, I know of what I speak.
When I put Buddhist they become more aggressive.
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Old 02-18-2007, 05:27 PM   #13
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this kind of stuff drives me bat-shit crazy! as well as very fearful of where this country has been, is, and is heading! and I'm sorry you have to put up with it.

It's probably best if you tell them, politely but firmly, that you prefer not to discuss religion. Explain that their overtures are causing you stress. Ask them to put that on your chart and spread the word.
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Old 02-18-2007, 05:59 PM   #14
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Hey, the obvious solution is to convince them you are the savior ... the second coming.
Make 'em bow and wash your feet under threat of a smite.
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