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lumberjim · 12-14-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Or that her new dog could get offlead and run away and thus lead to a "find" of a neighbors' "sticks of dynamite".

this, i'm convinced, was from an episode of Little House on the Prairie.

wtf? why are you hitching your wagon to her like this happymonkey?

Happy Monkey · 12-14-2006, 11:49 AM

I'm not. I'm hitching it against stupid bans.

lumberjim · 12-14-2006, 11:53 AM

you keep sniping like that then. let me know how it works out for you.

Happy Monkey · 12-14-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberjim

you keep sniping like that then. let me know how it works out for you.

Whatever.

lumberjim · 12-14-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Whatever.

exactly.

Ibby · 12-14-2006, 11:54 AM

Look, she's fuckin' gone now, for better or for worse, drop it people.

Undertoad · 12-14-2006, 11:59 AM

HM, it's your reputation. I know you're familiar with staple guns. If you stood in front of a wall of mailboxes, a few feet away, and shot at them,

1) What are the probabilities that the staple remains in "bars out" position during its flight?

1a) If it doesn't, what are the probabilities that it strikes the wall in "bars out" position?

2) If it does, what are the probabilities that the staple flies directly into the mailbox of your arch-enemy and someone whom you believe to be a physical danger to you... even if you aimed it directly?

3) If it does, what are the probabilities that it flies in with so much force that it can't be removed?

4) Played again, why can't you see it?

dar512 · 12-14-2006, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

4) Played again, why can't you see it?

I don't have a particular opinion one way or another about how likely that scenario is. For all I know she might have bunged the thing in with a hammer.

But, do you think that she is the only one who ever lied in the Cellar? I don't have anything in particular in mind, but I'm guessing no. Certainly she's made some bad life choices, but she's also not the only one on the Cellar who's done that.

I admit that there's a lot of the Cellar I don't read, so I might have missed something else. But I have to say that like HM, I don't get it.

lumberjim · 12-14-2006, 12:00 PM

no one is making you read this thread, jr.

Happy Monkey · 12-14-2006, 12:30 PM

If someone shoots a BB at the floor in an open-air range, what are the chances that it hits me right in the eye, on one riccochet with enough force to be extremely painful, but not quite enough for permanent damage? I dunno, pretty low, but it happened anyway. I guess it's pretty convenient for me that I can't prove it, since my eye is OK now, and I covered up the incident, to keep the shooter out of trouble.

As for the staple, I didn't say it was likely. But 3) is pretty likely if it goes in; locks are bumpy enough on the inside to make removal difficult. And it doesn't have to go in "bars forward", just "bars forward, back, up, or down, but not left or right".

Likely? No. But lots of things aren't likely.

Beestie · 12-14-2006, 12:42 PM

HM, after all that has happened, I'm dumbstruck that you could think the ban was avoidable. If nothing else, implicit in your assumption is the idea that XOB is trigger-happy and you know that ain't right.

Which is it? Do you think the Cellar was a better place with her in it or that banning her violated some inalienable right she has to post on someone else's board?

Happy Monkey · 12-14-2006, 01:00 PM

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Which is it? Do you think the Cellar was a better place with her in it

Yes.

Undertoad · 12-14-2006, 12:48 PM

A BB is as perfectly round as they can manufacture it, partly so that it travels through the air and maintains a high rate of speed and accuracy, and the force of a BB gun is intended to make the round travel 50 feet or something, and strike a target, so... yeah...

A staple gun does not produce enough force to go through a single sheet of newspaper at six inches. It does not produce enough force to go through a sheet of tissue at two feet. Try it. I just did, using my Craftsman Heavy Duty Dual Action with 1/2" heavy duty staples.

Maybe this is an airplane/treadmill problem. The reason a staple gun staples is not because it propels the staple forward at a high rate of speed. The reason a staple gun staples is because there's a big piece of metal, driven by a spring, pushing the staple into what you're stapling.

You can't accidentally staple something by shooting at it with a staple gun. Try it. The staple gun is not actually a gun.

Beestie · 12-14-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

A staple gun does not produce enough force to go through a single sheet of newspaper at six inches. It does not produce enough force to go through a sheet of tissue at two feet.

That depends on how much hot air is behind it. In this particular case, I think the extra energy would easily permit the staple to penetrate a two-inch thick sheet of polymer-reinforced titanium like it was a stick of warm butter.

Happy Monkey · 12-14-2006, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

A staple gun does not produce enough force to go through a single sheet of newspaper at six inches.

Um, a staple doesn't have to pierce anything to get stuck in a lock.

12-14-2006, 11:49 AM	#2
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12-14-2006, 11:53 AM	#3
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12-14-2006, 12:00 PM	#9
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	no one is making you read this thread, jr. __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

12-14-2006, 12:30 PM	#10
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	If someone shoots a BB at the floor in an open-air range, what are the chances that it hits me right in the eye, on one riccochet with enough force to be extremely painful, but not quite enough for permanent damage? I dunno, pretty low, but it happened anyway. I guess it's pretty convenient for me that I can't prove it, since my eye is OK now, and I covered up the incident, to keep the shooter out of trouble. As for the staple, I didn't say it was likely. But 3) is pretty likely if it goes in; locks are bumpy enough on the inside to make removal difficult. And it doesn't have to go in "bars forward", just "bars forward, back, up, or down, but not left or right". Likely? No. But lots of things aren't likely. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

12-14-2006, 11:59 AM	#7
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	HM, it's your reputation. I know you're familiar with staple guns. If you stood in front of a wall of mailboxes, a few feet away, and shot at them, 1) What are the probabilities that the staple remains in "bars out" position during its flight? 1a) If it doesn't, what are the probabilities that it strikes the wall in "bars out" position? 2) If it does, what are the probabilities that the staple flies directly into the mailbox of your arch-enemy and someone whom you believe to be a physical danger to you... even if you aimed it directly? 3) If it does, what are the probabilities that it flies in with so much force that it can't be removed? 4) Played again, why can't you see it?

12-14-2006, 12:42 PM	#11
Beestie -◊\|≡·∙■·∙≡\|◊- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Parts unknown. Posts: 4,081	HM, after all that has happened, I'm dumbstruck that you could think the ban was avoidable. If nothing else, implicit in your assumption is the idea that XOB is trigger-happy and you know that ain't right. Which is it? Do you think the Cellar was a better place with her in it or that banning her violated some inalienable right she has to post on someone else's board? __________________ ♠ ♥ ♣ ♦

12-14-2006, 12:48 PM	#13
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	A BB is as perfectly round as they can manufacture it, partly so that it travels through the air and maintains a high rate of speed and accuracy, and the force of a BB gun is intended to make the round travel 50 feet or something, and strike a target, so... yeah... A staple gun does not produce enough force to go through a single sheet of newspaper at six inches. It does not produce enough force to go through a sheet of tissue at two feet. Try it. I just did, using my Craftsman Heavy Duty Dual Action with 1/2" heavy duty staples. Maybe this is an airplane/treadmill problem. The reason a staple gun staples is not because it propels the staple forward at a high rate of speed. The reason a staple gun staples is because there's a big piece of metal, driven by a spring, pushing the staple into what you're stapling. You can't accidentally staple something by shooting at it with a staple gun. Try it. The staple gun is not actually a gun.

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