Some Dwellars know more than the Senate Intel Cmte - Page 5

Undertoad · 12-13-2006, 06:58 AM

Thanks Beestie, for posting the problem so eloquently. I believe it was you who understood it after the first ban. I admire your clarity, and when you really uncork a post, as you do from time to time, I am downright gay for you.

Thanks Bruce, for seeing the simplest and best solution for ALL involved, including chiko.

I somewhat regret being the level of hardass that I am about it, but in my current state of mind, I prefer honesty to politeness for the sake of being nice.

I would never ban someone just because they were intolerably irritating to me personally.

The subject of my original post is now being discussed in this thread: http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=12740

Undertoad · 12-13-2006, 08:47 PM

This thread ain't even the tip of the top of the iceberg, t.

tw · 12-13-2006, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

This thread ain't even the tip of the top of the iceberg, t.

That's right. The iceberg should never exist because everyone in this board is supposed to be adult. That means your emotions need not appear. Adults learn to not care. Adults are logical and tolerant of the children. Adults read everything and respond only logically.

Children get emotional. Adults who remain children then do silly things like need carry concealed guns, pit bulls, insult others, and need other symbols of their manliness such as sex without condoms or imposing their religious beliefs on others.

And so I desperately wanted gasoline. More insults and drunken posts would have been useful. It would have been great entertainment - and an example to others of what happens when adults insist their emotions have credibility.

Remember what started this thread. Policitians could not even reply with facts. Emotion was added in irrelevant posts later. Politicians who are supposed to be leaders did not even have dirt under their fingernails - could not answer with an honest grasp of reality.

It is both fun and educational to watch the children play in nursery school - as they struggle to learn what is necessary to be an adult. Unfortunately some forget that life means learning every day after graduating after nursery school. Learning to think logically and without emotional bias means learning every day. Emotions never once justifies anything - be it a war, illegal immigration, or censorship.

lookout123 · 12-13-2006, 09:26 PM

do you actually honestly think you are emotionless in your posting? can you honestly say that you read anyone's posts except to look for an opening to drop your re-posts?

tw · 12-13-2006, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lookout123

do you actually honestly think you are emotionless in your posting? can you honestly say that you read anyone's posts except to look for an opening to drop your re-posts?

E=mc^2.
Clearly that is no longer correct because it is a repost. Is that your logic?

Funny thing about history. The one who did not get all hot and bothered using 'them verses us' hype accurately disagreed with the majority about Kuwait and accurately disagreed with the majority about "Mission Accomplished". How can that be? One of us routinely ignored the emotional hype to first see facts. One of us also had no problem with any posts from marichiko or april. However this same one had serious problem with their censorship when it was based in emotional bias - not in anything logical. In each case, where is the logical justification stated?

Others had posted obvious spam. They were banned - and rightly so because the censorship was based in logic. Can you tell the difference between emotion and logic? One reason why posts are longer (when they are not factious) is that I post reasons with those posts. No reasons? Then I am no different than a scumbag named Limbaugh. Meanwhile. lookout123 - explain why a repost of the same idea makes the concept wrong? It does only if you are posting propaganda spin without supporting facts and examples.

I see no logical fact posted that justified so much hate of marichiko. I see plenty of emotion. I can grasp one fact that might justify the censorship. But I have yet to see anyone post that justification.

Beestie · 12-13-2006, 10:19 PM

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Can you honestly say that you read anyone's posts except to look for an opening to drop your re-posts?

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Originally Posted by tw

E=mc^2. Clearly that is no longer correct because it is a repost. Is that your logic?

No. His logic is that you don't read anyone else's posts and just post the same thing in every single thread in which you participate. His logic is quite correct. As you just proved.

yesman065 · 12-13-2006, 09:54 PM

What is the value of life without emotion? Unemotional?!?!?!? You have got to be kidding me. Emotions like desire, hate and love need to exist. Otherwise there is no point in life. Good gracious - aren't happiness and enjoyment emotions? tw, you and I strongly disagreed on many things during our last exchanges in other posts, but I respect your right to FEEL or BELIEVE the way you do. I too, also have the right to disagree.

I found and read this thread in its entirety for the first time tonight and was appalled, embarrassed and proud to be a member of the cellar. All of you with such diverse views and opinions are a bunch of awesome people - I just wish I had been around longer to fully comprehend what the hell happened.

I also wonder how close I must have come to being banned and for that I am very sorry to all of you. I apologize. I'm truly very sorry

Elspode · 12-14-2006, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by yesman065

appalled, embarrassed and proud to be a member of the cellar(

There's your new user title, man. Sweet!

yesman065 · 12-14-2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Elspode

There's your new user title, man. Sweet!

Thanks, Spode I never even thought of it till now. Perhaps I haven't been banned, but I'll bet I got on a bunch of ignores cuz of tw & BMW. Geez I gotta start paying closer attention or else

Urbane Guerrilla · 12-13-2006, 11:03 PM

Under the heading of "tw can't edit": verses for versus, more than once. Tw does not know English. Except distantly.

Lookout, ever given sufficient thought to the idea you might be superior by a long chalk to the Cellar's resident Soviet Communist and number one anti-Americanist? I put it that way because he seems to make a hobby of it.

Spexxvet · 12-14-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbane Guerrilla

Under the heading of "tw can't edit": verses for versus, more than once. Tw does not know English. Except distantly.

Lookout, ever given sufficient thought to the idea you might be superior by a long chalk to the Cellar's resident Soviet Communist and number one anti-Americanist? I put it that way because he seems to make a hobby of it.

Speaking of reposts...:p

Clodfobble · 12-14-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tw

I see no logical fact posted that justified so much hate of marichiko. I see plenty of emotion. I can grasp one fact that might justify the censorship. But I have yet to see anyone post that justification.

Funny, I would think you of all people would have a problem with being repeatedly lied to.

Happy Monkey · 12-14-2006, 11:26 AM

Most of the accusations of lying were pretty weak.

Undertoad · 12-14-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Monkey

Most of the accusations of lying were pretty weak.

I guess you believe she can put a staple through a specific mailbox lock at 5 paces.

Or that her new dog could get offlead and run away and thus lead to a "find" of a neighbors' "sticks of dynamite".

Happy Monkey · 12-14-2006, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

I guess you believe she can put a staple through a specific mailbox lock at 5 paces.

Anybody can, if it's an accident.

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Or that her new dog could get offlead and run away and thus lead to a "find" of a neighbors' "sticks of dynamite".

It was a road flare.

12-13-2006, 09:26 PM	#4
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	do you actually honestly think you are emotionless in your posting? can you honestly say that you read anyone's posts except to look for an opening to drop your re-posts? __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

12-13-2006, 11:03 PM	#10
Urbane Guerrilla Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 6,674	Under the heading of "tw can't edit": verses for versus, more than once. Tw does not know English. Except distantly. Lookout, ever given sufficient thought to the idea you might be superior by a long chalk to the Cellar's resident Soviet Communist and number one anti-Americanist? I put it that way because he seems to make a hobby of it. __________________ Wanna stop school shootings? End Gun-Free Zones, of course.

12-14-2006, 11:26 AM	#13
Happy Monkey I think this line's mostly filler. Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: DC Posts: 13,575	Most of the accusations of lying were pretty weak. __________________ _________________ \|...............\| We live in the nick of times. \| Len 17, Wid 3 \| \|_______________\| [pics]

12-13-2006, 06:58 AM	#1
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Thanks Beestie, for posting the problem so eloquently. I believe it was you who understood it after the first ban. I admire your clarity, and when you really uncork a post, as you do from time to time, I am downright gay for you. Thanks Bruce, for seeing the simplest and best solution for ALL involved, including chiko. I somewhat regret being the level of hardass that I am about it, but in my current state of mind, I prefer honesty to politeness for the sake of being nice. I would never ban someone just because they were intolerably irritating to me personally. The subject of my original post is now being discussed in this thread: http://cellar.org/showthread.php?t=12740

12-13-2006, 08:47 PM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	This thread ain't even the tip of the top of the iceberg, t.

12-13-2006, 09:54 PM	#7
yesman065 Banned - Self Imposed Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,847	What is the value of life without emotion? Unemotional?!?!?!? You have got to be kidding me. Emotions like desire, hate and love need to exist. Otherwise there is no point in life. Good gracious - aren't happiness and enjoyment emotions? tw, you and I strongly disagreed on many things during our last exchanges in other posts, but I respect your right to FEEL or BELIEVE the way you do. I too, also have the right to disagree. I found and read this thread in its entirety for the first time tonight and was appalled, embarrassed and proud to be a member of the cellar. All of you with such diverse views and opinions are a bunch of awesome people - I just wish I had been around longer to fully comprehend what the hell happened. I also wonder how close I must have come to being banned and for that I am very sorry to all of you. I apologize. I'm truly very sorry

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