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I did not say being a racist is not ignorant and thinking that the difference of melanin makes one "different" is not the height of stupidity.
Two, very different things. My statement is about those who get offended. If you are ok with your religion, race, nationality and who you are, you cannot get offended by such simpletons. BTW, I think burning a flag is a perfectly acceptable form of protest. If someone punished a father for a son's protest actions, they are far more ignorant than that son could ever be. |
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I didn't word my reply well...what i mean is, should we assume that black people are ok with being black? of course! if they are ok with it, saying nigger shouldn't offend them because they are OK with themselves. Why did Jesse Jackson and others get upset with Richards when he said it? I am assuming here that Jesse is ok with being black. This doesn't have anything to do with RIchards being a racist (though he is, I believe) it has to do with the notion that if blacks are OK with themselves, which we assume they are, why apologize for an offensive remark at all? It shouldn't affect the black community AT ALL.
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Because they can.
Someone calls me a cracker or honkey, I say "thank you", or some equally cheerful/sarcastic remark. My race is nothing to be proud, or ashamed, of... it is just luck and is neither here-nor-there. It does not affect the black community, any more than the other comedian calling the drunk female heckler a cunt... she was being a cunt, so he called her one. It was not an indictment on all females... People can be such idiots. Last edited by rkzenrage; 12-08-2006 at 09:35 AM. |
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Really? Is that why I was passed-over for a scholarship at Yale because they had to give it to a black kid with half my GPA and no community involvement?
Same goes for two promotions at jobs I had... I felt so "privileged" LOL. If you don't deserve the job or placement, you don't deserve the job or placement. Getting it without the credentials just gives credence to those that would say that you, and those "like you" cannot do things for yourself. I was a member of a, predominantly, black college club (CAVE) and I still, occasionally speak at it. We, as a group feel this way, because it is true. Affirmative action harms race and sex FAR more than it could EVER help it. I have seen it in the workplace. Someone given a job with less credentials and experience than others who posted for it due to affirmative action get NO respect, which is what they deserve... a shame to, it is not their fault... though I would not take such a position knowingly. Being white is not a privilige, that is a myth... we are not the majority any longer. Race is an accident, nothing more, as I said previously... if one feels insecure about it, that is on them. |
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I don't think he was saying that being white was a privelege..less I've read it wrong, I thought it was flagburning?
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Burning the flag that is sacred to some is not the same thing as desecrating a text that is sacred to some.
Some folks have some pretty major sacrifices tied up in that flag. Sacrifices they made on behalf of others. To desecrate the flag is, to them, offensive, disrespectful, insensitive and unappreciative. But, any sacrifices made in the course of one's religious convictions accrue to one's self. With one possible exception. Going strictly by the Bible's own words, no one can save the soul of another. People who choose to express themselves by burning the flag should find a more articulate way to express themselves. Just because freedom of speech permits it does not mean its the best way to make your point. It never made sense to me why anyone burned the flag to protest, for example, the Vietnam war. If their message was "America SUX" didn't they really mean to say America is Great but you (the politicians) are screwing it up? If so, I think a more appropriate protest might involve using the flag to hang some of those war criminals who sent our fathers and sons to fight and die to fulfil their misguided vision.
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The things this current, and recent, administrations, have taken the sacrifices of past generations and shit on them, and, while doing so, the flag. Would I like to see that, hell no. Would I understand what it was showing and means, yes. Problem is, those who the symbolic gesture is meant for, never see it for what it means, they don't see the sickness they inflict on their nation and the freedoms they steal, they only see greed and more power that they want. No, I do not think they want what is best... only actions show what is in someone's heart. |
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You guys remember Serrano's Piss Christ?
![]() As I recall, the plastic crucifix is submerged in a jar of the artist's micture and blood. Would I, as an atheist, be willing to do a performance piece by micturating on a bible or koran? Hmmmmmm. I'll have to think about that. What if those kids did that bible thing on stage as a work of "art?" Just throwing that out there. ![]() How ya doin, Flint old boy?
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Those boys weren't doing performance art when they were peeing on the bible. They were being naughty little school boys and they got caught, and now they're being punished.
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