Let them eat cake! - Page 5

Griff · 12-04-2006, 07:23 PM

It has been talked to death before.

DanaC · 12-04-2006, 07:27 PM

So? Mari posted a poem which highlighted an important issue regarding the substandard food being palmed off on those most in need. She knows about it because she is one of those people. But the post wasn't about her, it was a political poem ( I read it as such anyway) about the way those on the breadline are treated by society. The responses she got resparked the issues that have been talked to death. Maybe if people didn't respond in such a nasty way, it wouldn't devolve into a rehash of previous conversations....but when someone is attacked, there is an instinct to defend themself. And frankly, when someone is attacked, rounded on or treated unfairly again and again, some of us have an instinct to balance the picture.

Griff · 12-04-2006, 07:57 PM

My Mom is calling. Enjoy the game.

Aliantha · 12-04-2006, 07:58 PM

I read all the posts. edit: and found nothing to redeem anyone.

I still think the behaviour of some members on this thread is pretty disappointing, but I'm sure that's because I'm a bleeding heart liberal.

Thank christ for that is all I can say.

DanaC · 12-04-2006, 07:59 PM

@ Griff. Well.....how nice for you....enjoy your conversation.

Quote:

I still think the behaviour of some members on this thread is pretty disappointing, but I'm sure that's because I'm a bleeding heart liberal.

Thank christ for that is all I can say.

I'll echo that thanks

9th Engineer · 12-04-2006, 08:14 PM

I'm not going to read back over more than 30 pages of posts (how long did this issue go on??) to find out things from before I really caught on to things around here, but it sounds like a vauge pattern is emerging again. Mari brings up an innocent enough topic and may have a good point (in this case it was substandard food being donated), but it manages to morph into something entirely different and almost always hostile about something directly or indirectly related to her.

Mari, I did PM you, check your messages. I'd at least like to know whatever background I can get before committing myself to any opinions.

I can see a second trend developing secondary to Mari's influence as well, but I'm going to watch a little longer and see how it develops.

JayMcGee · 12-04-2006, 08:15 PM

with Danac and Ali on this one.

I have a RL friend in very much the same situation as the marichick, and like her, she is vilified and attacked whenever she posts on the boards (if your so poor, how come you can afford broadband etc...)

Keep your chin up, mari...... some of us do care.

9th Engineer · 12-04-2006, 09:41 PM

The same situation? That's alot to judge from someone's text, communication over a board (even PMing) is never reliable. I see ALOT of holes in Mari's story and she's got some serious explaining to do to offset the fact that the math on her posts points to pathological scam artist rather than victim. That's what's sitting on the board, until I hear news that makes me reconsider I have no sympathy for this person.

(I've browsed a few more posts since last comment, that attitude is waning fast)

JayMcGee · 12-04-2006, 09:51 PM

TBH, nineth placed, I can't remember acknowledging that I valued your opinon in this or indeed any other matter.

9th Engineer · 12-04-2006, 10:23 PM

And I can't remember that ever having any effect on what I think and how I say it.

LabRat · 12-05-2006, 11:10 AM

1:1000, Not such a bad ratio, methinks.

Shawnee123 · 12-05-2006, 11:14 AM

But how many of those were of or about your ass? Hey, I'm just joshin' couldn't resist.

LabRat · 12-05-2006, 11:58 AM

Everyone here has a right to post whatever they want (within the mod's/owners consent, of course). I am not asking anyone to stop posting. In fact, I think that is a very BAD idea. In general, talking about your situation to anyone who will listen is extremely good therapy for someone in emotional or physical pain. How other than by posting/talking can we find others in our situation so that we can share ways of coping with that situation?

I just think Mari blows her conditions out of proportion, and I have chosen not to pay attention to her. It's not a matter of liking or disliking her. It's about trust. I just don't trust her stories.

Rkzenrage-I have read but not posted to your thread. I feel it would be an extreme waste to lose it, or for you to stop participating because it is a good resource for those of us who would like a view into what it is like for someone that has to go through what you are.

The same goes for anyone posting about any life situation, divorce, death, job loss, marriage, pregnancy, what have you.

Shit happens to all of us, self inflicted or not. What matters how you REACT to it.

glatt · 12-05-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LabRat

It's not a matter of liking or disliking her. It's about trust. I just don't trust her stories.

Over the years, I've slowly come to the same conclusion. I don't dislike Mari, but I tend to ignore her posts, especially about her personal life because there have been one too many that just seems a little too fantastic. I think it was around the time of the dynamite story that I decided to stop paying attention to her posts.

Trilby · 12-05-2006, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by glatt

Over the years, I've slowly come to the same conclusion. I don't dislike Mari, but I tend to ignore her posts, especially about her personal life because there have been one too many that just seems a little too fantastic. I think it was around the time of the dynamite story that I decided to stop paying attention to her posts.

Like James Frey, Mari has a fiction addiction. I do sincerely empathize with addicts...however, when faced with irrefutable proof of the addiction I want an addict to come clean so real life can begin.

It's not that I am simply 'mean'--it's just that I don't buy it. At all. Money is tight/tight/tight? then don't take precious extra money to buy a pure-bred puppy and claim you needed companionship---Um, mongrels offer the same companionship, no? I could go on but I won't, it's fairly futile. But! i find it VERY interesting that mari did not (nor her familiar, tonchi) comment on my ideas for mari to live in "the real world"--they simply attacked me--no mention of the ideas. Classic. Classic Victim Mentality. I know mari has bread--if she wants to eat cake she should put forth some kind of effort--ANY effort at all would do.

12-04-2006, 07:23 PM	#1
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	It has been talked to death before. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

12-04-2006, 07:57 PM	#3
Griff still says videotape Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 26,813	My Mom is calling. Enjoy the game. __________________ If you would only recognize that life is hard, things would be so much easier for you. - Louis D. Brandeis

12-04-2006, 07:58 PM	#4
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	I read all the posts. edit: and found nothing to redeem anyone. I still think the behaviour of some members on this thread is pretty disappointing, but I'm sure that's because I'm a bleeding heart liberal. Thank christ for that is all I can say. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber Last edited by Aliantha; 12-04-2006 at 08:33 PM.

12-04-2006, 08:14 PM	#6
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	I'm not going to read back over more than 30 pages of posts (how long did this issue go on??) to find out things from before I really caught on to things around here, but it sounds like a vauge pattern is emerging again. Mari brings up an innocent enough topic and may have a good point (in this case it was substandard food being donated), but it manages to morph into something entirely different and almost always hostile about something directly or indirectly related to her. Mari, I did PM you, check your messages. I'd at least like to know whatever background I can get before committing myself to any opinions. I can see a second trend developing secondary to Mari's influence as well, but I'm going to watch a little longer and see how it develops. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

12-04-2006, 08:15 PM	#7
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	with Danac and Ali on this one. I have a RL friend in very much the same situation as the marichick, and like her, she is vilified and attacked whenever she posts on the boards (if your so poor, how come you can afford broadband etc...) Keep your chin up, mari...... some of us do care. __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

12-04-2006, 07:27 PM	#2
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	So? Mari posted a poem which highlighted an important issue regarding the substandard food being palmed off on those most in need. She knows about it because she is one of those people. But the post wasn't about her, it was a political poem ( I read it as such anyway) about the way those on the breadline are treated by society. The responses she got resparked the issues that have been talked to death. Maybe if people didn't respond in such a nasty way, it wouldn't devolve into a rehash of previous conversations....but when someone is attacked, there is an instinct to defend themself. And frankly, when someone is attacked, rounded on or treated unfairly again and again, some of us have an instinct to balance the picture.

12-04-2006, 09:41 PM	#8
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	The same situation? That's alot to judge from someone's text, communication over a board (even PMing) is never reliable. I see ALOT of holes in Mari's story and she's got some serious explaining to do to offset the fact that the math on her posts points to pathological scam artist rather than victim. That's what's sitting on the board, until I hear news that makes me reconsider I have no sympathy for this person. (I've browsed a few more posts since last comment, that attitude is waning fast) __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

12-04-2006, 09:51 PM	#9
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	TBH, nineth placed, I can't remember acknowledging that I valued your opinon in this or indeed any other matter. __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

12-04-2006, 10:23 PM	#10
9th Engineer Bioengineer and aspiring lawer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 872	And I can't remember that ever having any effect on what I think and how I say it. __________________ The most valuable renewable resource is stupidity.

12-05-2006, 11:10 AM	#11
LabRat twatfaced two legged bumhole Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,143	1:1000, Not such a bad ratio, methinks. __________________ Strength does not come from how much weight you can lift, or how many miles you can run. It comes from knowing that you set a goal, and rose to the challenge. Strength comes from within.

12-05-2006, 11:14 AM	#12
Shawnee123 Why, you're a regular Alfred E Einstein, ain't ya? Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,206	But how many of those were of or about your ass? Hey, I'm just joshin' couldn't resist. __________________ A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones who need the advice. --Bill Cosby

12-05-2006, 11:58 AM	#13
LabRat twatfaced two legged bumhole Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,143	Everyone here has a right to post whatever they want (within the mod's/owners consent, of course). I am not asking anyone to stop posting. In fact, I think that is a very BAD idea. In general, talking about your situation to anyone who will listen is extremely good therapy for someone in emotional or physical pain. How other than by posting/talking can we find others in our situation so that we can share ways of coping with that situation? I just think Mari blows her conditions out of proportion, and I have chosen not to pay attention to her. It's not a matter of liking or disliking her. It's about trust. I just don't trust her stories. Rkzenrage-I have read but not posted to your thread. I feel it would be an extreme waste to lose it, or for you to stop participating because it is a good resource for those of us who would like a view into what it is like for someone that has to go through what you are. The same goes for anyone posting about any life situation, divorce, death, job loss, marriage, pregnancy, what have you. Shit happens to all of us, self inflicted or not. What matters how you REACT to it. __________________ Strength does not come from how much weight you can lift, or how many miles you can run. It comes from knowing that you set a goal, and rose to the challenge. Strength comes from within.

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