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Old 11-09-2006, 01:32 PM   #1
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Nobody’s ever suggested that the attacks of September the 11th were ordered by Iraq."
Nor did I, but he had been supporting training and offering a safe haven to them for decades.
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Old 11-09-2006, 02:26 PM   #2
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Now I'm the one who is speechless.
I, too, am speechless.

The whole "they attacked us" where "they" == "Iraq" is a big red flag for me. I hear that and give the next ten seconds or so to gather the context--humor, sarcasm, rebuttal, or, gawd, righteous indignation. If the tone is serious belief, the speaker has lost considerable standing, perhaps permanently. This is on the order of saying "The earth is flat." with a straight face. Gonna be *hard* to recover from that one.
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Old 11-10-2006, 05:16 AM   #3
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Abso-freakin-lutely, as well as many many other atrocities against mankind. To think that there was no relation to Saddam whatsoever is incredulous.
What planet did you live on th last 3 years?
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:36 PM   #4
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Quit it you guys. Coz Hippikos will get lost in how stupid we continue to be and won't answer my fookin' questions.

Oh, who am I trying to kid? He won't answer them anyway.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:48 PM   #5
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Oh, who am I trying to kid? He won't answer them anyway.
I figured there was nothing to answer. When you are right, you are right.

The country is still split 50/50. Is just a smidgen to the left now instead of a smidgen to the right.
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Old 11-10-2006, 05:17 AM   #6
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Quit it you guys. Coz Hippikos will get lost in how stupid we continue to be and won't answer my fookin' questions.

Oh, who am I trying to kid? He won't answer them anyway.
You know what, Brianna, I do have a life outside The Cellar
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Old 11-10-2006, 08:26 AM   #7
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You know what, Brianna, I do have a life outside The Cellar
I do so humbly apologize you arrogant fuck.

Anyone who can post six posts in a row can answer questions, don't you think? Oh! Don't answer that! You're far too busy.
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Old 11-10-2006, 10:29 AM   #8
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I do so humbly apologize you arrogant fuck.
Hit a nerve here, Brianna, dear?
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Old 11-10-2006, 10:31 AM   #9
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Anyone who can post six posts in a row can answer questions, don't you think? Oh! Don't answer that! You're far too busy.
trying to keep up with the messages, Brianna. Sorry for answering. You can always put me on the ignore list.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:38 PM   #10
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Abso-freakin-lutely, as well as many many other atrocities against mankind. To think that there was no relation to Saddam whatsoever is incredulous.
Oh come on. Please tell me you don't actually believe that? All the evidence points to no involvement by Saddam whatsoever. The neo-cons have even admitted that. The fact that they couch such admissions in terms that then suggest the opposite doesn't change the facts.

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would you rather be fighting those a**holes over here?? Don't forget THEY attacked US not the other way around
America is not facing, nor ever has faced an invasion from Iraq. Likewise the UK. Granted they are now very pissed off with us, given that we invaded their country, destroyed its infrastructure and killed several hundred thousand of their people, so now they probably have the motivation for invasion, but I don't think we left them with enough to actually mount it.

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Darling, the Brits don't see it that way at all. They only see it in terms of how it will effect them. They really don't even give a hang about us, in terms of individuals; they see us as one big mass of simple-minded, uncultured hicks who'd best do what they're told, or no pat on the head from them.
That's not true. It's also interesting that having accused us of such gross generalisations, you then apply a gross generalisation to what we 'Brits' think of you Americans.

The problem isn't that people don't think America has a right to defend herself from attack. It's that people don't see America's defence as in anyway related to the invasion of a country which in no way posed a threat to either America, or Europe.

Iraq was not connected to 9/11. In no way was Iraq, or Saddam connected to the group who carried out that attack. It was not a war of self defence/protection. It was a war to remove Saddam's government from power. Now, whether or not that was right or wrong as a war aim is another debate. The point is, if the war was about removing another sovereign nation's leader and not because of that nation attacking America; how is there some kind of choice between fighting them over there and fighting them on home turf? The battle in America was never on the cards.

Brianna, when the 9/11 attack happened, Britain held out its hand to America. Our sympathy was assured and deepfelt. We were angry at what had been done to our friends. Do not read current anger at American and British leaders launching a war founded on lies, against a nation who posed no threat to either of us, as some kind of lack of interest or caring in what happens to America and Americans. There is a big difference between disagreeing with a country who went to war and wanting terrible things to happen to that country.

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Old 11-09-2006, 12:40 PM   #11
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attack! attack!

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Old 11-10-2006, 03:57 PM   #12
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you understand that the dems are the same brand of scum and villainy as the reps, just a slightly different flavor?

The Onion gets it.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/54918
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:22 PM   #13
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DanaC: "There is a big difference between disagreeing with a country who went to war and wanting terrible things to happen to that country."

riiight. You love us.
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:24 PM   #14
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It's not our fault. You guys kicked out all the religious nuts with guns and now you're surprised we're a bunch of religious nuts with guns!
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:36 PM   #15
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This war is NOT against Iraq - its against Terrorists.
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