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11-05-2006, 10:56 AM | #61 | ||
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Watching the White House try to define the word 'visit' is almost as much fun as watching Clinton try to define the word 'sex'. And if 10 minutes after the scandal broke, Josh Bolten and Karl Rove didn't have an exact list of the dates of each of Haggard's visits, I'd be personally shocked.
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11-05-2006, 11:29 AM | #62 |
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I've been to that city, I know it like the back of my hand........ New Life was a thorn in everyone's side and the "Brotherhood" was just as obnoxious. Here Here and cheers. They were intolerant haters which is why the story is so interesting. I guess they are their own example. Do not judge lest you be...... They fought equal rights campaigns as well (showing their politics) and should have their tax rights revoked as well.
I guess their hate and intolerance is not as strong as I had thought. Someone there likes a gay person...... |
11-05-2006, 08:33 PM | #63 |
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Yes, at least one and probably more in the closet.
But notice as soon as it was public, he had to bail.....they're intolerant of him, too. They don't need no stinkin tolerance.
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11-07-2006, 01:35 PM | #64 |
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Tolerance is for people who don't hold The Truth (tm). People holding The Truth (tm) can be complete asshats, because they're Believers.
Having The Almighty vouching for your prejudices is pretty handy at times.
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11-08-2006, 08:58 AM | #65 | |
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11-08-2006, 09:57 AM | #66 |
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The truth takes away excuses, it doesn't provide them. I'm with you on many many points that you've made about hypocrisy, etc. But like xoB said, when one (or several) people fail to live up to their own standards, their personal hypocrisy is to blame. It's not an indictment of the belief system. It's the individual's failure to live up to the tenets of the belief system that is the whole problem. The Truth(tm) is what it is. That's why it's so obvious when someone's not living up to it.
How many times have you seen someone with the little Jesus fish thingie on their car drive like a maniac and put someone in danger? The first thought that crosses my mind is, "Oh yeah, real Christian, that." I imagine the non-Christian's reaction is similar. Why? Because somewhere inside you, you are aware of what The Truth(tm) is supposed to mean, and you are seeing it being trampled on by someone displaying a public advertisement for it.
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11-08-2006, 10:36 AM | #67 |
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Right, Christianity doesn't have any definable characteristics when you say something bad about it, only when you say something good about it.
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
11-08-2006, 10:38 AM | #68 |
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For some people there's something more important than Truth(tm) and that's POWER®
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11-08-2006, 10:45 AM | #69 |
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Christianity means following Christ, it's not open to personal interpretation. If you say something "bad" about Christianity, it must be weighed against that fact. If you say that Christianity is about pushing gays down flights of stairs, you must say that Christ would have pushed gays down flights of stairs. If it's not true, it is not "Christian" by definition. Someone calling themself Christian cannot assign his or her non-Christian actions to Christianity; he or she must take full responsibility for them. Haggard bought dope from and engaged in sex with a prostitute. Christ would not have done so. That means that Haggard failed to live up to Christ-like standards, not that Christ-like standards are faulty.
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11-08-2006, 10:47 AM | #70 | |
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11-08-2006, 10:55 AM | #71 | |
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11-08-2006, 11:21 AM | #72 |
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If by "definition" you mean "whatever I want it to mean," yes.
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11-08-2006, 11:22 AM | #73 |
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No, I mean whatever you want it to mean. If you say you're a Christian I have no reason to doubt you.
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11-08-2006, 04:14 PM | #74 | |
I think this line's mostly filler.
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11-08-2006, 05:01 PM | #75 | |
Makes some feel uncomfortable
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