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Old 10-24-2006, 08:41 AM   #1
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Karma is not about this lifetime... the law of karma is what you do in this lifetime affects what happens to you in the next. It is about reincarnation, not immediate justice.
I think people may be confusing karma with John Lennon's "Instant Karma" . . .
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:49 PM   #2
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Its also a logical thing, as is all of Buddhism. If you do something bad, the world gets that much worse, and if the world is worse then worse things are more likely to happen.
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:37 AM   #3
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The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception.
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:41 AM   #4
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The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception.

wow, very nicely put
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Old 10-24-2006, 08:49 AM   #5
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The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception.
And to be conservative republican
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:25 AM   #6
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And to be conservative republican
I've known some very intelligent "conservative republicans" who aren't hyprocritical and do not like the hyprocritical party representations the politicians have become. Its all media, not fact. The majority of the doctrine, or ideals of the party are reasonable, those with the most media attention are not.
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:29 AM   #7
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Its all media, not fact.
The Liberal Media Conspiracy strikes again.
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:37 AM   #8
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I've known some very intelligent "conservative republicans" who aren't hyprocritical and do not like the hyprocritical party representations the politicians have become. Its all media, not fact. The majority of the doctrine, or ideals of the party are reasonable, those with the most media attention are not.
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The biggest obstacle is within the self - the lens we see reality through.

We can dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?

To do so is to stay locked within our own small perception
My point was not about intelligence, hypocricy or reasonableness. It was that conservative repubicans want to force everyone else to have their values. They wouldn't have an abortion, so NOBODY should be able to have an abortion. Same with same-gender marriage, etc.

"dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?"


Think about it.
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Old 10-24-2006, 01:09 PM   #9
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The Liberal Media Conspiracy strikes again.
The media is sensational not liberal.

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My point was not about intelligence, hypocricy or reasonableness. It was that conservative repubicans want to force everyone else to have their values. They wouldn't have an abortion, so NOBODY should be able to have an abortion. Same with same-gender marriage, etc.

"dissolve the dominance of our own persepctive by accepting that every person is valid for where they are at.

Who are we to say what, outside of ourself, is right or wrong?"


Think about it.
They believe that abortion is tatamount to murder. Its only logically for them to try and ban it. The same-gender marriage stuff is BS I agree. BUT they aren't trying to force their values on others, they are trying to "protect" their value. Liberal Democrats do the same thing, everyone does this, its human nature. Conservatives say that abortion and gay marriage are wrong; liberals say that prohibit either is wrong.

Back to rkz's concern: You'll be fine, take the intolerance you have for certain people and change it into sympathy/empathy/pity for those people.
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:19 AM   #10
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Isn't the objective of Buddhism enlightenment and knowledge? Ultimately "Nirvana"? That would explain why you become so frustrated with the willful ignorance of others (AKA stupidity). But don't be intolerant of the involuntary ignorant. And remember these things:
Ignorance is Bliss
All things are relative.

There are those people who probably believe you are ignorant and find you intolerable.
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Old 10-24-2006, 09:39 AM   #11
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FLINT "is not a source" ha ha ha
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Old 10-30-2006, 06:38 AM   #12
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Old 10-30-2006, 09:20 PM   #13
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Democrats say "you shouldnt do that so I'll ask you not to, but i cant really stop you"

Republicans say "you shouldnt do that so I'll MAKE SURE you'll ROT IN PRISON if you try"
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:12 PM   #14
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