Guernica II - Page 2

JayMcGee · 10-18-2006, 06:39 PM

... and to my mind, Picasso captured that pain, horror and sheer frustration to perfection.

Pangloss62 · 10-18-2006, 08:48 PM

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.. and to my mind, Picasso captured that pain, horror and sheer frustration to perfection.
10-18-2006 07:37 PM

Indeed.

Pangloss62 · 10-18-2006, 08:56 PM

Hey Big V.

Your Mondrian analogy is great. Really. You get an A. And I LOVE that painting. However, it's hard to say those Bolton attributes are good or bad; probably both.

A friend of mine noted Bolton's terse style...it annoyed him. For me, the jury is still in deliberation.

BigV · 10-24-2006, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pangloss62

Hey Big V.

Your Mondrian analogy is great. Really. You get an A. And I LOVE that painting. However, it's hard to say those Bolton attributes are good or bad; probably both.

A friend of mine noted Bolton's terse style...it annoyed him. For me, the jury is still in deliberation.

Thank you for the compliment, Pangloss62.

bluecuracao · 10-25-2006, 07:56 PM

Today is Picasso's birthday! He'd be 125 if he weren't dead.

10-18-2006, 09:07 PM

The educated international community understands the power of Picasso's 'Guernica' . Or should . I am afraid that you sound trite , JayMcGee .

I have been to Guernica . Guernica is a town in Spain , a town in Euskadi too . Depends on which side you are on .

For the people of Guernica who have been advertised around the world by that great artist and ....money-mongering advertiser Picasso , the true symbolic sadness is the death of a particular ancient tree which represented the Basque identity . That tree died about twenty years ago from a tree sickness .

And do not forget that Basque identity means rivers of blood . It is nonsense to weep over Picasso's 'Guernica' . And it is really crap anyway . Who understands Picasso ? Yanks seeking culture have to say they understand . What , a load of upside-down faces in some sort of weird loooooooong dr

JayMcGee · 10-19-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddug

The educated international community understands the power of Picasso's 'Guernica' . Or should . I am afraid that you sound trite , JayMcGee .......

Sorry. I was aware that I was posting on a predominately American board. I may well have over-compensated...

My apologies.

10-18-2006, 09:08 PM

...awing ?

Aliantha · 10-18-2006, 10:24 PM

Most real art critics (which is what we all are believe it or not) will tell you that it doesn't matter what the painting meant to the artist, it only matters what it means to you.

If it means something, then appreciate it for that. If it means nothing, then move on to the next one.

And yeah, some galleries would sell a childs painting for a million bucks if they thought they could get away with it, but if someone's silly enough to pay money for something because someone else tells them they should then more fool them in my opinion.

Happy Monkey · 10-18-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Most real art critics (which is what we all are believe it or not) will tell you that it doesn't matter what the painting meant to the artist, it only matters what it means to you.

That's just so the artist can't embarrass them by telling them they're wrong.

10-19-2006, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Aliantha

Most real art critics (which is what we all are believe it or not) will tell you that it doesn't matter what the painting meant to the artist, it only matters what it means to you.

If it means something, then appreciate it for that. If it means nothing, then move on to the next one.

And yeah, some galleries would sell a childs painting for a million bucks if they thought they could get away with it, but if someone's silly enough to pay money for something because someone else tells them they should then more fool them in my opinion.

I agree, most of the stuff in the Guggenheim is shit to me...don't know why, I really like a lot of modern art. Their collection just leaves me cold.

Aliantha · 10-18-2006, 10:36 PM

lol...perhaps. But again, who cares? The viewer can't be expected to 'feel' the same way as the painter can they? Even if they know what the artist meant, they still might 'feel' differently about it.

JayMcGee · 10-19-2006, 07:29 PM

no, it's a cop-out, HappyMoney.

And indicative not only of a lack of analytical skills, but also of the lack of language skills

Happy Monkey · 10-20-2006, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JayMcGee

no, it's a cop-out, HappyMoney.

And indicative not only of a lack of analytical skills, but also of the lack of language skills

But it is an opinion.

JayMcGee · 10-19-2006, 07:37 PM

.... oh, and thanks for the Geography lesson..... without that, I would never have put 2 and 2 together and realised that Geurnica, bombed during the Spanish Civil war, was in Spain.

10-18-2006, 06:39 PM	#1
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	... and to my mind, Picasso captured that pain, horror and sheer frustration to perfection. __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

10-18-2006, 08:56 PM	#3
Pangloss62 Lecturer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 768	Analogy Hey Big V. Your Mondrian analogy is great. Really. You get an A. And I LOVE that painting. However, it's hard to say those Bolton attributes are good or bad; probably both. A friend of mine noted Bolton's terse style...it annoyed him. For me, the jury is still in deliberation. __________________ Things are never as good, or bad, as they seem.

10-18-2006, 10:24 PM	#9
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	Most real art critics (which is what we all are believe it or not) will tell you that it doesn't matter what the painting meant to the artist, it only matters what it means to you. If it means something, then appreciate it for that. If it means nothing, then move on to the next one. And yeah, some galleries would sell a childs painting for a million bucks if they thought they could get away with it, but if someone's silly enough to pay money for something because someone else tells them they should then more fool them in my opinion. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-18-2006, 10:36 PM	#12
Aliantha trying hard to be a better person Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 16,493	lol...perhaps. But again, who cares? The viewer can't be expected to 'feel' the same way as the painter can they? Even if they know what the artist meant, they still might 'feel' differently about it. __________________ Kind words are the music of the world. F. W. Faber

10-19-2006, 07:29 PM	#13
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	no, it's a cop-out, HappyMoney. And indicative not only of a lack of analytical skills, but also of the lack of language skills __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

10-25-2006, 07:56 PM	#5
bluecuracao in a mood, not cupcake Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,034	Today is Picasso's birthday! He'd be 125 if he weren't dead.

10-18-2006, 09:07 PM	#6
Buddug Guest Posts: n/a	The educated international community understands the power of Picasso's 'Guernica' . Or should . I am afraid that you sound trite , JayMcGee . I have been to Guernica . Guernica is a town in Spain , a town in Euskadi too . Depends on which side you are on . For the people of Guernica who have been advertised around the world by that great artist and ....money-mongering advertiser Picasso , the true symbolic sadness is the death of a particular ancient tree which represented the Basque identity . That tree died about twenty years ago from a tree sickness . And do not forget that Basque identity means rivers of blood . It is nonsense to weep over Picasso's 'Guernica' . And it is really crap anyway . Who understands Picasso ? Yanks seeking culture have to say they understand . What , a load of upside-down faces in some sort of weird loooooooong dr

10-19-2006, 07:37 PM	#15
JayMcGee Cardigan-wearing man Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Much Binding In The Marsh Posts: 1,082	.... oh, and thanks for the Geography lesson..... without that, I would never have put 2 and 2 together and realised that Geurnica, bombed during the Spanish Civil war, was in Spain. __________________ I like wearing cardigans...... my current favourite is an orange cable-knit with real leatherette buttons.

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