If you outlaw guns, then only....

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by MaggieL

... it's easier to 'solve' these problems by disarming you than by jailing them and those who illegally sold them their weapons.".
...

And there's another conflict. You have voiced opposition to taxes in the past. Who pays for the prisons, guards, etc? Since these guys surely shouldn't be allowed back on the streets ever ( ) the cost will be staggering, not to mention the space that'll be needed to contain these people. Got a solution to that?

[Griff]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

And there's another conflict. You have voiced opposition to taxes in the past. Who pays for the prisons, guards, etc? Since these guys surely shouldn't be allowed back on the streets ever ( ) the cost will be staggering, not to mention the space that'll be needed to contain these people. Got a solution to that?

Maybe we end the War on Drugs and use the empty cells for violent criminals? Of course a lot of the violence appears to be around the illegal drug culture so maybe those cells would stay empty.

[xoxoxoBruce]

The real cost of the war on drugs make Iraq look like pocket change.

Also, if you allow someone to dis you in front of your home boys, you'll have to leave town and not come back. If you shoot the scumbag that had the nerve to dis you, you'll be cool. If you get caught and go to jail, you're still leaving town but you can come back....at a higher status too.
The whole concept, the reasoning behind that attitude just blows my mind.

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

And there's another conflict. You have voiced opposition to taxes in the past. Who pays for the prisons, guards, etc? Since these guys surely shouldn't be allowed back on the streets ever ( ) the cost will be staggering, not to mention the space that'll be needed to contain these people. Got a solution to that?

I'm not opposed to all taxes. But one problem here is that too much of the taxes collected in Philadelphia are spent on the Mayor's cronys and other bullshit rather than on enforcing the law.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by MaggieL

I'm not opposed to all taxes. But one problem here is that too much of the taxes collected in Philadelphia are spent on the Mayor's cronys and other bullshit rather than on enforcing the law.

Oh, so now your a socialist - you want others to help pay for the additional prisons you want. What a collectivist! (when the collection suits you).

You don't pay Philadelphia taxes, so you have no right to complain. And the point about how they're spent? Nice straw man, Mags.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by MaggieL

I'm unwilling to be disarmed on the excuse "...".

So there is an excuse you would be willing to be disarmed on? Which excuse is it?

[MaggieL]

Originally Posted by glatt

So there is an excuse you would be willing to be disarmed on?

No.

[headsplice]

It's too bad that that particular moment in Scarface is what makes it so popular. He's so coked up that he can't feel the fact that he's been shot multiple times. Great.

[Pangloss62]

It's gonna be on the tube this weekend. I never watched it all the way through. Is it worth the time? 4 out of 5 stars? 3 stars?

I liked Dog Day Afternoon myself.

[glatt]

Originally Posted by Pangloss62

Is it worth the time?

I don't think so. Michelle Pfeiffer's character nailed the whole movie when she said something like "Does every other word out of your mouth have to be "fuck?"

[Happy Monkey]

Is anyone watching this season of "The Wire" on HBO? It gets into a lot of the stuff in morethanpretty's post.

[Clodfobble]

Originally Posted by tw

...it is called a 'big dic' mentality.

I was hoping this was a flash-in-the-pan phrase, but if you're going to keep using it, for God's sake it's spelled "big dick."



To me, the nonchalant violence in urban culture was always reminiscent of the Asian social concept of "honor." Which is weird, when you think about the drastically different direction each group went with it.

[slang]

Originally Posted by Clodfobble

....spelled "big dick.

Or maybe "big dice"

[Griff]

Originally Posted by slang

Or maybe "big dice"

dictiphone?

Originally Posted by Ibram
I'm 100% against gun use and guns in general.

But as long as there ARE guns, everyone fit to own one should be allowed to. Either everyone or NO ONE. And I mean like, shutting down every gun plant, every bullet factory, everything, melting down ALL the guns... etc.

Ibram, do you believe that there is such a thing as justifiable homicide (e.g. killing another person in self defense or to save another's life)? A perpetrator doesn't have to have a firearm to pose a lethal threat; so, even if ALL firearms were absent from society a lethal threat level would still exist. If you accept justifiable homicide, what do you believe would be the most effective and humane way of accomplishing this if not with a firearm?