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Old 10-03-2006, 11:43 AM   #1
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Everyone exhibits this kind of mentality, and we can't just accuse or condem gun-owners for it.
I won't condemn gun-owners for their mentality, only for owning guns they don't need.
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Old 10-03-2006, 11:44 AM   #2
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I won't condemn gun-owners for their mentality, only for owning guns they don't need.
So what constitutes need?
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Old 10-03-2006, 11:47 AM   #3
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So what constitutes need?
Good question.
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Old 10-03-2006, 11:51 AM   #4
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Good question.
Easy question. Ask any kid who's been bullied beyond tolerance.
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Old 10-03-2006, 12:42 PM   #5
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I won't condemn gun-owners for their mentality, only for owning guns they don't need.
When exactly were you appointed to judge what I may or may not have based on your perception of my "needs"? Your hoplophobia is *your* problem; suck it up and deal with it.
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Old 10-03-2006, 03:54 PM   #6
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I won't condemn gun-owners for their mentality, only for owning guns they don't need.
May I in return condemn you for owning clothing and CDs and DVDs and luxury food items that you don't need?
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Old 10-03-2006, 11:42 AM   #7
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Also quoth Homer S. -- If I didn’t have this gun, the king of England could just walk in here anytime he wants and start shoving you around--you want that, huh, DO YOU?
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Old 10-03-2006, 11:59 AM   #8
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Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold needed guns.
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Old 10-03-2006, 12:13 PM   #9
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Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold needed guns.
i'm saying the emotions run higher than you or I could imagine. I am not saying those boys needed guns or should have been violent. Sheesh. I guess you find what you are looking for, eh, Monkey? You are soooo good at that. Twist, twist, twist.
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Old 10-03-2006, 12:33 PM   #10
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i'm saying the emotions run higher than you or I could imagine. I am not saying those boys needed guns or should have been violent. Sheesh. I guess you find what you are looking for, eh, Monkey? You are soooo good at that. Twist, twist, twist.
I didn't twist a thing. That was a softball. A kid who has been bullied beyond tolerance is not a good example of someone who needs a gun.
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Old 10-03-2006, 12:36 PM   #11
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A kid who has been bullied beyond tolerance is not a good example of someone who needs a gun.
What about disgruntled Post Office employees?
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Old 10-03-2006, 04:00 PM   #12
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Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold needed guns.
Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold illegally obtained guns, and used them to commit an illegal act.
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Old 10-03-2006, 12:06 PM   #13
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Do you consider hunting strictly violence related then? Many people hunt for the food, you can't get wild texas pig in the supermarket. People tend to be more responsible when handling a gun because the risk involved is easily recognizable to them. People often don't give a shit when it comes to their driving or they just don't think that there is that much of a risk. That is why ppl don't care to tie down the furniture so that it falls out when they are on the hwy and causes a wreck behind them (saw it happen this weekend). That is why I was totalled 2 weeks ago when a semi rock truck decided to pass ppl in the turn lane. Cars aren't directly related to violence so people don't relate them to violence. But yet you can kill more people with one car than one bullet. There are more responsible gun owners then you are giving them credit for.
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Old 10-03-2006, 12:12 PM   #14
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Do you consider hunting strictly violence related then?
violence
1. swift and intense force
2. rough or injurious physical force, action, or treatment
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it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your
expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever
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Old 10-03-2006, 12:26 PM   #15
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So, Flint are you a vegetarian, then? That hamburger you just ate was once a nice pretty cow, grazing in a summer field. It was then rounded up, taken to the slaughter house, and, according to you, suffered a violent death.

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PS--re: Finns. WTF? The Finn's are like--like, comparing the US to Greenland! Come ON!
I was questioning the validity of Pangloss's assertion that gun owners have a tendency to turn their guns on others. The Finn's have more guns per household than we do, they've got to do SOMETHING about all that pent up violence!
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