Who are you? Can you prove it?

Originally Posted by morethanpretty

If there is a chip available there will be one goin in my kid...the number of pedo's and other creeps out there are just gettin worse. if my child winds up missing i want to be able to find them immediatly, and the perv who kidnapped them. Of course I won't be happy if they are able to use the technolory to find out that it was me who chopped the perv into tiny little pieces...

There is a bracelet available... we are getting it for our son.

[Rock Steady]

Originally Posted by morethanpretty

If there is a chip available there will be one goin in my kid...the number of pedo's and other creeps out there are just gettin worse. ..

The # of sleazy govt people increases even worse. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[Spexxvet]

The problem with the chip, and to a lesser extent the bracelet, is the person who wants it out of another person. There could be some digging around with a knife, or chopping off body parts, so that the chip/bracelet is nullified. That would be double plus ungood, IMHO.

[morethanpretty]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

The problem with the chip, and to a lesser extent the bracelet, is the person who wants it out of another person. There could be some digging around with a knife, or chopping off body parts, so that the chip/bracelet is nullified. That would be double plus ungood, IMHO.

Not if the chip is hidden...if they don't know its there they won't know to look for it or try and deactivate it

[Flint]

Some hospitals attach RFID tags to newborn's ubmilical cords as a security measure (in this case, a part of them that will fall off anyway).

[xoxoxoBruce]

I asked him today if the cop had a laptop in the cruiser. He said yes, but since the locals didn't have the info from Texas yet, it wasn't practical for him and the three cruisers to sit beside the road, for who knows how long it would be.

I suggested he talk to his local police dept in Chester County where he lives. Make them aware of who he is and what went down. He's already known to one of the cops there that runs a gun store on the side. That way if it should happen again, they could call his department, who would be familiar with the situation and could tell the cop that stopped him, he's cool.
Can't hurt.

I would suggest he talk to a lawyer so that the keystone cops learn properly how to conduct themselves.
Innocent until proven guilty is LITERAL.

[xoxoxoBruce]

They didn't arrest him for being guilty, then arrested him on suspicion of being a fugitive. They can do that and hold you for a prescribed period of time before they must charge or release you. I think it's 24 hours but that may not be true.

If they could only arrest guilty people, nobody would be arrested because it's not their job to determine who's guilty. The courts couldn't find anybody guilty because the police couldn't arrest anyone.

I imagine only innocent people would show up for trial, voluntarily.

[tw]

Originally Posted by xoxoxoBruce

They didn't arrest him for being guilty, then arrested him on suspicion of being a fugitive.

All this and an example of a NJ soldier returning to his unit when stopped (because a childhood friend stole his identity) for hours (and therefore AWOL) was discussed previously including:
A National ID Card

That discussion defined two things needed: 1) method to prove you are who you claim, and 2) method to protect your identity; verify that no one else is using your ID.

Meanwhile, a recent HP boardroom story is but another example of a system perverted. HP even released Social Security numbers of Board Members to many shady organizations. This part of a program that involved stealing board member phone records, stealing records of those who board members called, and intentionally creating and installing viruses on third party computers.

Once a SS number is distributed (as with those board members), then you are done - cooked - compromised. You cannot change that SS number. You cannot retrieve that number. It was never intended for such identification purposes (and neither was a driver's license). If you have a problem with this summary and did not read the previous details, then don't reply. Above sentences are intentionally vague so that you will assume erroneous conclusions or will read the Nov 2001 discussion.

If cops follow all current LAWS governing their behavior, at all times, we do not need a national ID card.
The card is just a more convenient method of stealing someone's ID... not the other way around.
Your example of the SSI# issue proves the point... not the other way around.

[Ibby]

Originally Posted by tw

All this and an example of a NJ soldier returning to his unit when stopped (because a childhood friend stole his identity) for hours (and therefore AWOL) was discussed previously including:
A National ID Card

That discussion defined two things needed: 1) method to prove you are who you claim, and 2) method to protect your identity; verify that no one else is using your ID.

Meanwhile, a recent HP boardroom story is but another example of a system perverted. HP even released Social Security numbers of Board Members to many shady organizations. This part of a program that involved stealing board member phone records, stealing records of those who board members called, and intentionally creating and installing viruses on third party computers.

Once a SS number is distributed (as with those board members), then you are done - cooked - compromised. You cannot change that SS number. You cannot retrieve that number. It was never intended for such identification purposes (and neither was a driver's license). If you have a problem with this summary and did not read the previous details, then don't reply. Above sentences are intentionally vague so that you will assume erroneous conclusions or will read the Nov 2001 discussion.

Y'know, tw, thats probably the best post of yours I've seen. I didnt realize it was you until the very very end.

You have to have more than just a name. There has to be some evidence to hold someone. This was a pathetic show of ineptitude and an enormous misuse of power that should not go unchallenged so it does not happen again.
"Well Sgt. Tom Smith committed a crime in NY... go round em' up!"... tell me another one.

[richlevy]

Suddenly Dweezil and Moon Unit don't sound like such bad names for children.

[capnhowdy]

Being a Zappa narrows it down considerably.

[bluecuracao]

But being a Zappa probably gets you on a "watch list."