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footfootfoot · 08-13-2006, 08:02 PM

I'm hoping Flint had his sarcasm hand up. Freedom? WTF is freedom is you are being denied your right to peaceably assemble and exercise your 1st ammendment rights. (such as they are)

08-13-2006, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

I'm hoping Flint had his sarcasm hand up. Freedom? WTF is freedom is you are being denied your right to peaceably assemble and exercise your 1st ammendment rights. (such as they are)

If denied, time to take them back... not having them at any time is never an option.

footfootfoot · 08-13-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rkzenrage

If denied, time to take them back... not having them at any time is never an option.

Not an option, but it does feel like we're sliding in that direction. I remember a course I took in college on the first ammendment, the teacher spoke about "the chilling effect" that certain laws had on free speech. They didn't outright deny your rights, but they chilled the option of excercising them by subjecting you to possibly long, expensive, and career or reputation destroying legal battles. Or in this case, a rubber bullet to the head.

"yeah, you have a right to peaceably assemble, but we'll shoot you anyway, and good luck taking us to court. You'll spend a wad of cash and a month of sundays just to see the affair being handled "internally" maybe a slap on the wrist, and while your at it, expect to be pulled over for routine traffic stops at least three times a day."

It happens around here if you don't keep your nose clean and your mouth shut.

Elspode · 08-15-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by footfootfoot

Not an option, but it does feel like we're sliding in that direction.

Fortunately, it is all for own protection. We aren't able to decide for ourselves anymore, so thank goodness we have a big, strong President who is taking care of all of that for us.

More thorazine, please. What's on TV? Can I have a new videogame?

Flint · 08-13-2006, 08:08 PM

If it isn't obvious that I was joking, then we, as a society, are completely fucked.

footfootfoot · 08-15-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

If it isn't obvious that I was joking, then we, as a society, are completely fucked.

No it's not we as a society, I am just under a lot of pressure now (think Ferris Bueller, you could stick a lump of coal up my butt and you'd have a diamond in a week) and I am seemingly able only to see in a rather one dimensional way.

I'll be glad when this crazy project is completed.

08-14-2006, 01:10 AM

“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.”
-- Patrick Henry, 3 Elliot, Debates at 45 (Virginia Convention, June 5, 1788).

“God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms... The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure.”
-- Thomas Jefferson to William S. Smith on Nov. 13, 1787. The Papers of Thomas Jefferson, ed. Julian P. Boyd, vol. 12, p. 356 (1955).

Flint · 08-15-2006, 01:45 PM

When public confidence in the government is low, the government apparently becomes eager to validate this perception.

08-13-2006, 08:02 PM	#1
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	I'm hoping Flint had his sarcasm hand up. Freedom? WTF is freedom is you are being denied your right to peaceably assemble and exercise your 1st ammendment rights. (such as they are) __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

08-13-2006, 08:08 PM	#5
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	If it isn't obvious that I was joking, then we, as a society, are completely fucked. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

08-15-2006, 01:45 PM	#8
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	When public confidence in the government is low, the government apparently becomes eager to validate this perception. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

08-14-2006, 01:10 AM	#7
rkzenrage Guest Posts: n/a	“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.” -- Patrick Henry, 3 Elliot, Debates at 45 (Virginia Convention, June 5, 1788). “God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... what country can preserve it's liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms... The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it's natural manure.” -- Thomas Jefferson to William S. Smith on Nov. 13, 1787. The Papers of Thomas Jefferson, ed. Julian P. Boyd, vol. 12, p. 356 (1955).

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