8/6/2006: Beirut Photoshop - Page 5

Griff · 08-09-2006, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

But we won't go there in this thread.

I dislike Michelle Malkin, I think she is annoying and a total bitch and often completely wrong. This morning her post on more Lebanon coverage is must reading. First a NY Times caption is shown to be bogus as an injured man in one photo is shown in other photos to be merrily walking around.

Then a US News COVER is shown to be entirely bogus as the fire and ruins of an Israeli jet turn out to be... a tire fire!!!

I'm getting very irritated with news coverage. A "funny" bit about this stuff is that civics teachers are always telling the kids not to believe anything on the net, check with legitamit news sources. Then we have these situations where the net has to do the fact checking on our media filters.

Flint · 08-09-2006, 08:44 AM

I listen to Sean Hannity's talk radio show sometimes. Surprisingly, I don't always disagree with him 100%. But seriously, if you don't percieve a bias in your favorite news source it just means they share the same bias as you.

MaggieL · 08-09-2006, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Flint

But seriously, if you don't percieve a bias in your favorite news source it just means they share the same bias as you.

I percieve biases in all my news sources. That's why I have a diverse set.

Flint · 08-09-2006, 11:58 AM

I honestly believe that if anything important is happening in the world, there will be a debate about it on the internet.

Sundae · 08-09-2006, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

I honestly believe that if anything important is happening in the world, there will be a debate about it on the internet.

But even "important" is subject to bias. I broke my flip-flop yesterday and had to walk home with an elastic band round my foot to keep it on. Incredibly important to me, but not picked up by any photography agency. I guess they're all busy at the moment.

Flint · 08-09-2006, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

But even "important" is subject to bias. I broke my flip-flop yesterday and had to walk home with an elastic band round my foot to keep it on.

If you started a thread about that, and it stuck around and got alot of responses, and generated alot of attention, it would have been deemed "important" via democratic process.

glatt · 08-09-2006, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

But even "important" is subject to bias. I broke my flip-flop yesterday and had to walk home with an elastic band round my foot to keep it on. Incredibly important to me, but not picked up by any photography agency. I guess they're all busy at the moment.

I interviewed a woman on Monday for a job opening we had. She broke her shoe on the way to the interview. So after the interview, I got her a roll of packing tape and some scissors for her to try to fix the thing well enough to get home.

I'm just saying, it could be worse.

(Oh, and she didn't get the job.)

Sundae · 08-09-2006, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Flint

If you started a thread about that, and it stuck around and got alot of responses, and generated alot of attention, it would have been deemed "important" via democratic process.

Tis true I admit - look at the whale penii!

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Originally Posted by glatt

I'm just saying, it could be worse.

(Oh, and she didn't get the job.)

Yup, she had a worse day than me! Although it could be a turning point in her life - you could open a newspaper one day and see a totally new style of packing tape shoe designed by this woman...!

Undertoad · 08-09-2006, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae Girl

But even "important" is subject to bias. I broke my flip-flop yesterday and had to walk home with an elastic band round my foot to keep it on. Incredibly important to me, but not picked up by any photography agency. I guess they're all busy at the moment.

IDF activity causes footwear failure

Cellar user Sundae Girl experienced footwear failure on Tuesday
as she came under mortar fire from IDF tanks. She was only
able to return to her Midlands home by improvising a quick fix.
Experts say poor shoes are a major cause of stress in war zones.

Adnan Hajj/Reuters

glatt · 08-09-2006, 12:28 PM

Wow, Sundae, you feet are a bit more masculine than I pictured. No offense intended.

Undertoad · 08-09-2006, 12:07 PM

Totally clean dust-free toys are added to scenes of destruction for dramatic effect

Al Jazzera video proves that the tire fire mentioned above was caused by a misfired Hezbollah missile

Undertoad · 11-15-2006, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertoad

Al Jazzera video proves that the tire fire mentioned above was caused by a misfired Hezbollah missile

Well the video is no longer available, but a few days ago the actual photographer of the original US News cover shot came forward on Lightstalkers, a professional news photographers site. Bruno Stevens explained the details behind this shot:

This is the shot that made the US News cover.

Stevens submitted the shot with the caption:

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Kfar Chima, near Beirut, July 17, 2006. An Israeli Air Force F16 has alledgedly been shot down while bombing a group of Hezbollah owned trucks, at least one of these trucks contained a medium range ground to ground missile launcher.

Maybe the meaning of "allegedly" got lost because he misspelled it. After returning to the site and gathering more details, he then submitted a more complete caption:

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Kfar Chima, near Beirut, July 17, 2006. The Israeli Air Force bombed a group of Hezbollah chartered trucks parked on the back of large Lebanese Army barracks, at least one of these trucks contained a medium range ground to ground missile launcher, at least one missile was hit, misfiring high into the sky before falling down and starting a huge fire in the barracks’ parking lot.

This correlates with what people figured out from the Al Jazzera video. Stevens also shot the now-dead missile launcher inside the targeted truck:

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This is a very important piece of evidence showing probable collusion between Hezbollah and the Lebanese Army, there is little doubt that the Lebanese Army was aware of the presence of at least one missile launcher and at least one large missile on their parking lot. The size of the launcher, destroyed a couple of days later from the ground by an unknown party suggest missiles 10 to 14 meters long.

A few days after he submitted all of the above, the top pic appeared in Time, and as is the usual practice, editors re-wrote Stevens' caption.

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The wreckage of a downed Israeli jet that was targeting Hizballah trucks billows smoke behind a Hizballah gunman in Kfar Chima, near Beirut. Jet fuel set the surrounding area ablaze.

Got that? The fine detail from the photographer who was actually there, was discarded, in favor of a suitable narrative. Hizballah shot the jet down. Missile launching trucks became simple trucks. A legitimate military target was whitewashed out, the photo of the evidence is not reprinted. The ruin was the result of Israeli actions and not a Hezb misfire as they probably tried to launch at the last minute and fucked up.

Now people are calling Stevens anti-semitic because they don't know he didn't write that caption. Seems to me he did good work documenting what happened and revisiting the location several times to collect facts. Too bad the facts became a casualty.

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There were 6 to 8 large articulated trucks parked there, making it a very legitimate target for the Israeli Air Force, quite far away from civilian houses. Guilad, I can’t see why showing and explaining this makes me antisemitic or even anti-Israeli. Quite, quite, the contrary in fact.

Ibby · 08-09-2006, 12:30 PM

NONONO, UT, youve got it all wrong! I found Hajj's real picture...

Sundae · 08-09-2006, 12:43 PM

The scary thing was it was a red rubber band - only used by the Post Office in this country but pinched from the postroom by me. My toenails are purple at the moment though. Nail varnish, not bruising I hasten to add.

Trilby · 08-09-2006, 01:00 PM

This is all very delicious! Thanks for the laughs!

Seriously, though, I always knew my paranoia would some day pay off.

08-09-2006, 08:44 AM	#2
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I listen to Sean Hannity's talk radio show sometimes. Surprisingly, I don't always disagree with him 100%. But seriously, if you don't percieve a bias in your favorite news source it just means they share the same bias as you. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

08-09-2006, 11:58 AM	#4
Flint Snowflake Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dystopia Posts: 13,136	I honestly believe that if anything important is happening in the world, there will be a debate about it on the internet. __________________ **************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio**

08-09-2006, 12:30 PM	#13
Ibby erika Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: "the high up north" Posts: 6,127	NONONO, UT, youve got it all wrong! I found Hajj's real picture... Attached Images __________________ not really back, you didn't see me, i was never here shhhhhh

08-09-2006, 12:43 PM	#14
Sundae polaroid of perfection Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 24,185	The scary thing was it was a red rubber band - only used by the Post Office in this country but pinched from the postroom by me. My toenails are purple at the moment though. Nail varnish, not bruising I hasten to add. __________________ Life's hard you know, so strike a pose on a Cadillac

08-09-2006, 01:00 PM	#15
Trilby Slattern of the Swail Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,654	This is all very delicious! Thanks for the laughs! Seriously, though, I always knew my paranoia would some day pay off. __________________ In Barrie's play and novel, the roles of fairies are brief: they are allies to the Lost Boys, the source of fairy dust and ...They are portrayed as dangerous, whimsical and extremely clever but quite hedonistic. "Shall I give you a kiss?" Peter asked and, jerking an acorn button off his coat, solemnly presented it to her. —James Barrie Wimminfolk they be tricksy. - ZenGum

08-09-2006, 12:28 PM	#10
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Wow, Sundae, you feet are a bit more masculine than I pictured. No offense intended.

08-09-2006, 12:07 PM	#11
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Totally clean dust-free toys are added to scenes of destruction for dramatic effect Al Jazzera video proves that the tire fire mentioned above was caused by a misfired Hezbollah missile

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