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07-06-2006, 02:33 AM
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"Oh, help me questa... questa... quetzacoat... quetzacao... HURK"
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07-06-2006, 02:35 AM
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Precisely.
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07-06-2006, 04:52 AM
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Damn, Pie! No wonder they cut peoples hearts out and sacrificed children.
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07-06-2006, 09:26 AM
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I don't count "myth" and "religion" as interchangable, at all.
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07-06-2006, 12:33 PM
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07-06-2006, 12:49 PM
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[religion and myth]
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Also, we are surrounded by myth which may or may not have anything to do with religion. See: Joseph Campbell.
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****************** There's a level of facility that everyone needs to accomplish, and from there it's a matter of deciding for yourself how important ultra-facility is to your expression. ... I found, like Joseph Campbell said, if you just follow whatever gives you a little joy or excitement or awe, then you're on the right track. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Terry Bozzio |
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07-06-2006, 12:29 PM
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Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, the Greek gods, und so weiter are all "myths" to me. Unprovable stories someone made up a long time ago. The only thing that seperates them is that some are more entertaining than others.
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07-06-2006, 01:00 PM
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How is it that hearing voices in your head is most often considered a mental illness, but hearing god talk to you is not? If someone is depressed and cuts themselves to feel better, we diagnose it as a clinical issue, but we write off people whipping themselves to please Jesus as a basic aspect of a religious sect? Yeah, I know mental disorders are grounded in deviation from accepted culture and defined as only an issue when detrimental to the individual, but that is a thin line. The first time I saw people speaking in tongues first hand, I thought they were absolutely insane. After reading more about it, I stand by that opinion. |
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07-06-2006, 12:52 PM
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How does ancient Egyptian "mythology" not meet the criteria of your first description?
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07-06-2006, 04:31 PM
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I'm not an expert in anciant Egyptian culture, but if the Egyptian mythology was used in the manner I described, then it does qualify as a religion. I think the question would be: why is it called "mythology" ??? Because the monotheistic religions put that label on it, to classify it as something beneath them? We're just talking about words here. I think "mythology" is the thing that "religion" is usually based on.
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07-06-2006, 02:26 PM
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And some people whip themselves because they get off on it, without any involvement from perceived higher beings.
(I guess I'm not sure what point you were trying to make. )
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07-06-2006, 02:35 PM
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erika
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I think the point is that we write off behavior that would normally be considered crazy as normal or at least sane if they say its religious.
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07-06-2006, 02:42 PM
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Gone and done
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Gotcha.
Yes, but psychological issues are probably the least of religion's faults. How about genocide, war, persecution, murder... The list is long and ever-growing. All done in the name of <insert chosen deity here>.
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per·son \ˈpər-sən\ (noun) - an ephemeral collection of small, irrational decisions The fun thing about evolution (and science in general) is that it happens whether you believe in it or not. |
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07-06-2006, 02:45 PM
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Religion is usually a red herring... usually the base reason is jack.
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