|
Current Events Help understand the world by talking about things happening in it |
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
10-03-2005, 05:22 PM | #1 | |
Goon Squad Leader
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Seattle
Posts: 27,063
|
Murder rate in Florida headed toward ZERO per 100,000!
Quote:
__________________
Be Just and Fear Not. |
|
10-03-2005, 05:36 PM | #2 |
Professor
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,788
|
"Duty to retreat" was an evil doctrine from the get-go. I'm glad to see it gone.
|
10-03-2005, 06:09 PM | #3 |
NSABFD
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: MS. usa
Posts: 3,908
|
How did any laws as good as this "maybe," get by a BUSH?
__________________
I've haven't left very deep footprints in the sands of time. But, boy I've left a bunch. |
10-03-2005, 07:07 PM | #4 |
The future is unwritten
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 71,105
|
Some people just need killin'.
__________________
The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump. |
10-03-2005, 07:21 PM | #5 |
Goon Squad Leader
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Seattle
Posts: 27,063
|
No argument there.
I do wonder about how this changes our current system about who decides who needs killin'. Back in September, juries made the decision, prosecutors suggested candidates with captial charges, and judges have made the decision. These decisions took place in the highly controlled environment of the criminal justice system, and mistakes were rare. Policemen made the decision on the street in situations of extreme stress and danger. These decisions are routinely examined for their validity. Mistakes are more common, but still rare. Criminals made the decision too, of course. These are all mistakes. Back in September, sometimes citizens in their homes made the decision. I have no idea how many of these decisions were mistakes. I wonder how many times I have caused someone to feel threatened. What about on the road, when I follow too closely or change lanes without signalling? Is this a capital crime now? Who decides? The citizen, the shooter. They now have the protection of the law to become the judge, jury and executioner. Where will this lead to? Where will it end?
__________________
Be Just and Fear Not. |
10-03-2005, 07:31 PM | #6 |
To shreds, you say?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet!
Posts: 18,449
|
Not only is the world my castle, it is also my oyster.
Except for months without an "R" obviously.
__________________
The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs |
10-03-2005, 10:55 PM | #7 | |
Professor
Join Date: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,788
|
Quote:
Even with the new law, ordinary citizens don't have that kind of protection. They're still going to be prosecuted and judged; it's just that they'll be judged based on more reasonable criteria. |
|
10-03-2005, 11:07 PM | #8 |
Goon Squad Leader
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Seattle
Posts: 27,063
|
Protection? What's to prosecute?
If I am not in the process of committing a crime (drug deal, etc), and I feel threatened, I can legally apply deadly force. What more reasonable criteria are you talking about?
__________________
Be Just and Fear Not. |
10-04-2005, 01:08 AM | #9 |
lobber of scimitars
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Phila Burbs
Posts: 20,774
|
Overall, I think it's a good thing.
However, I believe that repo men in Florida will soon be demanding a performance bonus beyond their usual fee per car.
__________________
wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis |
10-04-2005, 07:07 AM | #10 |
Master Dwellar
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 4,197
|
yeah, it is a good thing. your going to have to justify to a grand jury though why the said dead person needed killin'. they're going to frown upon someone who shot someone because they said they felt threatened and there were not any witnesses. now if the assailant had a gun, crowbar, baseball bat or the like and it was found at the scene then your chances of not getting charged with some form of murder are far less.
__________________
For your dreams to come true, you must first have a dream. |
10-04-2005, 09:16 AM | #11 | |
UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 20,012
|
Quote:
|
|
10-04-2005, 09:27 AM | #12 |
Breathing into a paper bag
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Ohio
Posts: 334
|
This will get people like my dad, who tends to get loud and obnoxious when his blood pressure goes up, shot for no other reason than they have a whiplash temper coupled with an excellent system for projecting their voice.
Maybe the grand jury will indict the shooter later, but hey...dad has still been plugged. Might be something that the blood pressure people will fight...kill enough blood pressure drug users and some of those monster pharm companies will lobby.
__________________
Taking up smoking to lose weight. Last edited by darclauz; 10-04-2005 at 09:29 AM. |
10-04-2005, 10:12 AM | #13 | |
UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 20,012
|
Quote:
|
|
10-04-2005, 10:23 AM | #14 |
Guest
Posts: n/a
|
I suspect that what will happen is that the criminal element will make more use of this law than the honest citizens. Stop and think about it. How many regular citizens, other than our new director of FEMA, of course, have guns and are trained in their use? And how many folks pack guns around with them when they go down to the grocery store or the office? Not many.
Who is the most likely person to have a gun on them and feel no hesitation in using it, outside the police? A criminal. So, a drug deal goes bad, Joe Gangbanger shoots his dealer and claims he was threatened and walks. |
10-04-2005, 10:48 AM | #15 |
lobber of scimitars
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Phila Burbs
Posts: 20,774
|
Joe Gangbanger won't have a legally purchased weapon, and he won't have a concealed carry permit.
It's not going to be the wild west, people. Otherwise law abiding citizens will not be calling each other out on whatever they call Main Street in Miami Beach.
__________________
wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | |
|
|