Have gas prices affected you?

[wolf]

Originally Posted by Bullitt

Anybody else heard about those guys who are rigging up hybrid cars with a bunch more batteries for +-$6,000, getting an estimated 250 mpg in the process? I can't imagine how paranoid EMT's would be around a wreck with that much juice goin through it.

There are apparently already protocols in place for cutting hybrid cars to bits with the jaws of life and that really cool big radial saw ...

Originally I'd heard the hybrids were quite dangerous to EMTs, but more recent information seems to indicate that's not entirely the case. If I hear anything further (the EMT who is a firefighter should be in work tomorrow) I'll let you guys know.

I have a car that gets around 18/gallon. While I admit that I seriously miss my 32 MPG sportscar, I am still only filling up two or three times per month. Put it on the gas co. card, throw money at it once a month ... minor, not major impact at this point.

[LCanal]

For fuel economy maybe one of these. At

http://www.smart.com/-snm-0144779740...70kwcdi%2epage

There is a sports version


http://www.smart.com/-snm-0144779740...hlights%2epage

And a Roadster

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[xoxoxoBruce]

Originally Posted by LCanal

For fuel economy maybe one of these. At

http://www.smart.com/-snm-0144779740...70kwcdi%2epage

There is a sports version


http://www.smart.com/-snm-0144779740...hlights%2epage

And a Roadster

http://www.smart.com/-snm-0144779740...hlights%2epage

Driving one of those shitboxes you would probably be dead before the credit card bill came anyway.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by wolf

Originally I'd heard the hybrids were quite dangerous to EMTs, but more recent information seems to indicate that's not entirely the case. If I hear anything further (the EMT who is a firefighter should be in work tomorrow) I'll let you guys know.

Okay, so I talked to the fireman.

They treat hybrids exactly the same as they do any other car.

They cut the battery cables and then they hack it to pieces.

[LCanal]

Yes, I'm really bummed out I used to be able to fill the truck for 50,000Rp = $5.25 but gas here has soared up to 2500Rp/litre = $1.05 a US gallon.
Now it cost's $9.50 for a fillup. I'm going diesel it's cheaper

[Undertoad]

Apparently the extra battery guys are just getting extra non-gas miles in order to get to 250 MPG. They plug in at the end of their trip.

[Queen of the Ryche]

So how long do they have to drive it before the recoop the extra $6K for the extra batteries???

[Bullitt]

Guess that depends on the gas prices in the particular area, and how far/what kind of driving is done. I wonder how all that extra weight affects mileage/performance during regular (non electric) engine operation, the wear on your tires, your brakes, suspension, etc. Car batteries aren't light.

[Troubleshooter]

Prices aren't just affecting our driving.

I just got my light bill.

Actual usage: $65

Fuel Adjustment: $75

[mricytoast]

I want to get one of those bio-diesel cars. There was something in National Geographic about it, it's around 60-80 MPG and it costs about 8 dollars to fill up the car's tank for a month.

[Troubleshooter]

Originally Posted by mricytoast

I want to get one of those bio-diesel cars. There was something in National Geographic about it, it's around 60-80 MPG and it costs about 8 dollars to fill up the car's tank for a month.

What they probably didn't tell you is how much it really costs to produce bio deisel and the associated subsidies and such.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oiaf/analysispaper/biodiesel/

[tw]

Originally Posted by dar512

Has/will the increase in gas prices affect your driving behavior?

Of course not. One need only learn from history. Gas had to go to about $7 per gallon in the late 1970s before people actually changed behaviour.

Meanwhile, people are so foolish as to complain and yet not do anything about it. There is good reason why the US government could give GM something like $100 million in 1994 to build a hybrid - and GM still does not have one 11 years later. Price of gasoline is still quite normal. However too many assumed gasoline at the lowest price levels ever (in the 1980s and early 1990s) is normal. Gasoline in 1970 was about $1.75 per gallon. Any yet only a few years ago, people were complaining when the price was $1.40 per gallon. More examples of silly emotion. Behavior did not change because their complaint had no basis in reality.

Gasoline is still quite cheap. One need only learn from the numbers.

Meanwhile those who think they are saving money at Wawa are again lying to themselves. Gasoline that provides less MPG is not cheaper.

What is the first thing anyone does if they are really concerned about the price of gas? Record every gallon and every mile. Start by learning what is and is not really more expensive; what is and is not really working. Most are not doing this because gasoline is still so cheap.

[wolf]

Originally Posted by tw

Of course not. One need only learn from history. Gas had to go to about $7 per gallon in the late 1970s before people actually changed behaviour.

Are you factoring in the fines for buying on an "odd" day when you were an "even"?

$7?

Not even during that month where the gas station reset the pumps for liters instead of gallons because that was the only way they could get the counter to work right (price had exceeded .999) did we pay $7/gallon.

[tw]

Originally Posted by wolf

Not even during that month where the gas station reset the pumps for liters instead of gallons because that was the only way they could get the counter to work right (price had exceeded .999) did we pay $7/gallon.

Any historical price provided without correction for inflation is how the propagandists 'lie by telling half truths'. In 2005 dollars, gasoline in the late 1970s was about $7 per gallon. Historically, gasoline prices today are not excessive.

Price for gasoline has simply gone back to historically normal prices. Unfortunately, too many don't consider inflation so they can appease their emotional reactions.

Originally Posted by tw

Any historical price provided without correction for inflation is how the propagandists 'lie by telling half truths'. In 2005 dollars, gasoline in the late 1970s was about $7 per gallon. Historically, gasoline prices today are not excessive.

Price for gasoline has simply gone back to historically normal prices. Unfortunately, too many don't consider inflation so they can appease their emotional reactions.

Nice try, tw, but no cigar: