If you're going to commit suicide...

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by lookout123

brianna, you obviously need more coffee - before you just said you like them hung like a...

Yeah, I did just wake up. What was I thinking?

[Trilby]

Why not just overdose on your lethal drug of choice and leave innocent bystanders-and the cliff-out of it? People who commit suicide, no matter which way they go, are indeed unbelievably stupid and selfish. My co-worker had to clean up the blood and brains her son left behind after he shot himself in the head at her house.

[russotto]

Originally Posted by Brianna

People who commit suicide, no matter which way they go, are indeed unbelievably stupid and selfish.

Demanding someone stay alive, regardless of how bad their life is or its lack of prospect for improvement, is unbelievably stupid and selfish.

[OnyxCougar]

Originally Posted by russotto

Demanding someone stay alive, regardless of how bad their life is or its lack of prospect for improvement, is unbelievably stupid and selfish.

I dont demand they stay alive, but at least have the decency not to screw someone else over in the process.

[Trilby]

Originally Posted by russotto

Demanding someone stay alive, regardless of how bad their life is or its lack of prospect for improvement, is unbelievably stupid and selfish.

I don't demand that anyone stay alive. Just that they don't traumatize the rest of humanity whilst going in thru the out door. And it certainly IS a selfish act. Try to understand beyond yourself.

[xoxoxoBruce]

But beyond yourself should not include people that force themselves into your life.

[richlevy]

I saw the Insomniac episode where Dave Attel rode with a guy whose company cleans up homicide/suicide scenes at hotels. Even without a body there it was pretty gruesome.

My theory is that some suicides are the ultimate 'now they will notice me' act of the terminally ignored. These aren't the ones who want to be stopped, they are the ones who intend to, pardon the pun, 'make a splash' as their final gesture.

[Elspode]

Considerate suicides sit in the bathtub with the shower curtain drawn before blowing their brains out.

[glatt]

We had someone who turned out to be a homeless guy somehow get onto the roof of my office building and jump off into the back alley. The roof was 12 stories high. The cops had to leave him there for a few hours until they finished their investigation. Meanwhile, word spread like wildfire in my building, and lots of people went to offices that overlooked the alley to gawk at the splatter. I made a point not to look at the mess, because I just don't need to have an image like that burned into my memory.

Many of the gawkers were messed up for the rest of the day. It really hurt office morale for a few days, and nobody even knew the guy.

[cowhead]

well.. the whole suicide issue is a tricky one with me, I believe that a person has a right to take his or her own life, however.. here's the tricky part I don't think they have the right to do so at somone elses expense (other than the obvious emotional damage the act itself will cause).

in '99 my roomate killed himself, and I was the one who found him (the screwed up thing is that I didn't find him for three days, it was a decent sized house and he was known for taking road trips without telling anyone.. so I went into his room to close the window as I was turning on the AC.. suffice to say I didn't sleep well for about a year. and it has caused me some problems with forming attatchments to people.. heh also why I live alone now)

[Clodfobble]

I saw the Insomniac episode where Dave Attel rode with a guy whose company cleans up homicide/suicide scenes at hotels. Even without a body there it was pretty gruesome.

Yeah, our neighbor blew his brains out, in the middle of the foyer such that blood and brains were splattered in the livingroom, hallway, bedroom, and of course the foyer itself. They were renters, which meant the landlord and his wife had to clean it all up themselves because they couldn't afford one of those cleaners (they inquired, but it runs in the several thousands, apparently.) Still cost them 3 rooms' worth of new carpeting.

[wolf]

Guess he didn't get the security deposit back, huh?

[Beestie]

After reading this thread, I'm stunned at how many people on the Cellar (not all are represented in this thread) have either first- or second-hand experience finding suicide victims.

I almost wonder if society needs a place for these people to go to off themselves. Maybe what we need is a SuicideAtorium - a place for people to go to do the final deed. I wonder if any of them would use it. What would such a place be like in order to attract people who want to kill themselves but without somehow encouraging it?

I'm not being entirely cynical. This wallpapering of people's homes/cars/trains/lives with grey matter needs to stop.

[Troubleshooter]

Doctor K tried. Isn't it Oklahomo that has the diginity in dying thing as well?

I can see the advertisements now...

[404Error]

Originally Posted by Troubleshooter

Doctor K tried. Isn't it Oklahomo that has the diginity in dying thing as well?...

It's Oregon, and the law is being
challanged again by the Bush administration.

In the Bush administration's view, suicide is not a ``legitimate medical purpose'' under regulations that carry out the federal Controlled Substances Act. The administration will argue before the Supreme Court, as it did unsuccessfully to the lower federal courts, that doctors who prescribe drugs for physician-assisted suicide violate the federal law and are subject to revocation of their federal prescription license.