RIP Ronald Reagan - Page 12

DanaC · 06-08-2004, 05:15 PM

I htink the martyr comment was just referring to you and Onyx "playing martyr" over RADAR's ignore list. I hope that's all it was anyway, because I dont see that you have been the martyr over your disability at all.

OnyxCougar · 06-08-2004, 05:21 PM

Since when did I play martyr? Especially over fuckwit's ignore list? Like I give a rat's ass. I think it's funny that he turns off any opinion that disagrees with his and belittles any ideas but ones that agree with his.

How is that me being a martyr?

ladysycamore · 06-08-2004, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by lookout123

ROFLMAO! radar is paraphrasing stallone in cobra! uh, oh - is radar's solution anything like the final solution? i better work to stay off the shitlist then.

Oh god he's gone to paraphrasing a movie now?? A Stallone movie? Sheesh!

Fucker.

xoxoxoBruce · 06-08-2004, 07:28 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Yelof
[quote]Originally posted by lookout123

people have forgotten that whether or not we like "pres john jones" or not, he is the president. show respect for the office, if you can't manage it for the man.

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This I have often heard from Americans and I have not understood.. I don't think it a healty attitude to hold too much reverence or respect for a politician. What ever their party colours, by nature of having arrived to the top of "the greasy pole" some of the grease has probably rubbed off on to them. They have power and could abuse it, a cynical disrespectful attitude would be a more healthy attitude.

If you need a national figurehead, I think it would be better to do as other countries do, seperate the job into prime minister a politician and head of state (President or if you must King) a non-politician. The Head of States job is figurehead and protection of the constitution.

Remember, the purpose of democrary is to save us from tyranny

I was with you on the first part, but figurehead, no. We have plenty of undeserving celebrities to look up to.
Respect the office is fine, but ex-presidents go in the same bin with ex-wives.

lookout123 · 06-08-2004, 07:37 PM

i think you guys are getting the ideas of "respect" and "blindly worship" mixed up. they shouldn't get a free pass from any negative comment about them, but damn - we have fallen a long way from the days when the media wouldn't photograph FDR in awkward positions with his wheelchair - they generally tried to get standing shots of him. they did this from a desire to show the office respect. the president should not be seen as weak and unsupported. it is difficult for the rest of the world to respect him/the office if all the world sees is our own citizens endlessly disrespecting the man/the office of the president.

both parties and the media are equally guilty of dragging the presidency through the mud. i see no problem in going after the policies/politics of the individual, but i have a serious problem with going after the individual. it is not helpful to anyone, and i believe it is just plain wrong.

Beestie · 06-08-2004, 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by lookout123
...It is difficult for the rest of the world to respect him/the office if all the world sees is our own citizens endlessly disrespecting the man/the office of the president.

Beautifully said. **Applause***

elSicomoro · 06-08-2004, 08:13 PM

With all due respect, guys, it's all about perception. I don't respect our current president, and I'm sure there are plenty of people that didn't respect Reagan. Just because someone doesn't respect the person doesn't make them bad.

As far as Radar...well, I think this should answer your questions:

06-08-2004, 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by OnyxCougar
Since when did I play martyr? Especially over fuckwit's ignore list? Like I give a rat's ass. I think it's funny that he turns off any opinion that disagrees with his and belittles any ideas but ones that agree with his.

How is that me being a martyr?

Oh, admit it. You're a martyr, too. Anyone who makes any response what-so-ever to Radar's negative comments about them is a martyr. Live with it.

OnyxCougar · 06-08-2004, 09:03 PM

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mar·tyr n.
1. One who chooses to suffer death rather than renounce religious principles.
2. One who makes great sacrifices or suffers much in order to further a belief, cause, or principle.
3a. One who endures great suffering: a martyr to arthritis.
3b. One who makes a great show of suffering in order to arouse sympathy.

One and two definitely do not apply...

I only suffer unto Radar when he opens his flap, and since I'm not under great suffering, and I don't want anyone's sympathy (in this case, it doesn't matter even if I did..I mean, it's Radar...) I would say, nope, you're wrong Syc.

elSicomoro · 06-08-2004, 09:07 PM

Eh, wrong person, Onyx.

06-08-2004, 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by OnyxCougar

mar·tyr n.
1. One who chooses to suffer death rather than renounce religious principles.
2. One who makes great sacrifices or suffers much in order to further a belief, cause, or principle.
3a. One who endures great suffering: a martyr to arthritis.
3b. One who makes a great show of suffering in order to arouse sympathy.

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One and two definitely do not apply...

I only suffer unto Radar when he opens his flap, and since I'm not under great suffering, and I don't want anyone's sympathy (in this case, it doesn't matter even if I did..I mean, it's Radar...) I would say, nope, you're wrong Syc.

I am biting my keyboard trying to not make the obvious response. I am a good girl, I am a good girl... (breathes deeply). There, it passed, at least for now.

lumberjim · 06-09-2004, 12:43 AM

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Originally posted by marichiko

Oh, admit it. You're a martyr, too. Anyone who makes any response what-so-ever to Radar's negative comments about them is a martyr. Live with it.

this is what i'm talking about. every other post you and cougar make is a cloyingly sarcastic barb about being maligned by freakin radar. i'm not saying you are 'martyrs' in the literal sense. i was referring to your 'martyr routine' -- jokingly bemoaning your mistreatment and denial by radar. over and over and over and over and over...........and over and over and over.

what i said had nothing at all to do with your symptoms. Not unless whining is one of the symptoms of CO poisoning or depression.

but, since you brought it up....again:

The thing about a message board is that it levels the playing field. you could be a quadriplegic pygmi homosexual typing with your penis, and i wouldnt know the difference. it also means that you should stop trying to use it as an excuse or a defense for what you write.

Don't think i'm saying this to be mean to you. You're a big girl, and I think you can tell the difference between mean spirited attacks, and plainly stated feedback from someone who cares enough to tell you about it. If you ever see me come out of the bathroom with toilet paper stuck to my shoe, or a booger hanging from a nose hair, or my fly is down, I want you to tell me about it immediately. If I have bad breath, tell me. I'd rather be embarrassed and know it than embarrassed and not know it. I rip on you because I feel that it is my duty. Just ask Perth.

06-09-2004, 12:58 AM

Glad to hear you have such a strong sense of duty. :p

One other thing. I went back and actually wrote down the names of the people who "contributed" to this, and how many posts each made, and there were lots of folks besides me and Onyx making comments about Radar. I also noticed that you jumped right in quite a few times to heighten the effect - like quoting Onyx's remarks so Radar could see them, and it was YOU who reminded me that Radar had called me a "blithering idiot" and it was also you who accused Radar of "spying" on posts under a different name. If you don't like the smell, I suggest you quit stirring the shit.

jaguar · 06-09-2004, 01:55 AM

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you could be a quadriplegic pygmi homosexual typing with your penis, and i wouldnt know the difference.

At least until we had to make the member pictures thread NSFW.

Clodfobble · 06-09-2004, 09:30 AM

and it was also you who accused Radar of "spying" on posts under a different name

Jesus Christ guys, was I the only person who got the joke about Radar being Spivey? Do you REMEMBER Spivey's posts? It was a joke.

See, watch: "Sometimes Lumberjim logs on as Perry5 just to stir the shit some more..." See how that was humor, because they're obviously different people but on an ironic level there are similarities?

It's like every time Radar is involved in a thread the rest of you lose all sense of perspective.

06-08-2004, 05:21 PM	#2
OnyxCougar Junior Master Dwellar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kingdom of Atlantia Posts: 2,979	Since when did I play martyr? Especially over fuckwit's ignore list? Like I give a rat's ass. I think it's funny that he turns off any opinion that disagrees with his and belittles any ideas but ones that agree with his. How is that me being a martyr? __________________ Impotentes defendere libertatem non possunt. "Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." ~Franklin D. Roosevelt

06-08-2004, 07:37 PM	#5
lookout123 changed his status to single Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Right behind you. No, the other side. Posts: 10,308	i think you guys are getting the ideas of "respect" and "blindly worship" mixed up. they shouldn't get a free pass from any negative comment about them, but damn - we have fallen a long way from the days when the media wouldn't photograph FDR in awkward positions with his wheelchair - they generally tried to get standing shots of him. they did this from a desire to show the office respect. the president should not be seen as weak and unsupported. it is difficult for the rest of the world to respect him/the office if all the world sees is our own citizens endlessly disrespecting the man/the office of the president. both parties and the media are equally guilty of dragging the presidency through the mud. i see no problem in going after the policies/politics of the individual, but i have a serious problem with going after the individual. it is not helpful to anyone, and i believe it is just plain wrong. __________________ Getting knocked down is no sin, it's not getting back up that's the sin

06-09-2004, 12:58 AM	#13
marichiko Guest Posts: n/a	Glad to hear you have such a strong sense of duty. :p One other thing. I went back and actually wrote down the names of the people who "contributed" to this, and how many posts each made, and there were lots of folks besides me and Onyx making comments about Radar. I also noticed that you jumped right in quite a few times to heighten the effect - like quoting Onyx's remarks so Radar could see them, and it was YOU who reminded me that Radar had called me a "blithering idiot" and it was also you who accused Radar of "spying" on posts under a different name. If you don't like the smell, I suggest you quit stirring the shit. Last edited by marichiko; 06-09-2004 at 01:15 AM.

06-08-2004, 05:15 PM	#1
DanaC We have to go back, Kate! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 25,964	I htink the martyr comment was just referring to you and Onyx "playing martyr" over RADAR's ignore list. I hope that's all it was anyway, because I dont see that you have been the martyr over your disability at all.

06-08-2004, 08:13 PM	#7
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	With all due respect, guys, it's all about perception. I don't respect our current president, and I'm sure there are plenty of people that didn't respect Reagan. Just because someone doesn't respect the person doesn't make them bad. As far as Radar...well, I think this should answer your questions:

06-08-2004, 09:07 PM	#10
elSicomoro Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 12,486	Eh, wrong person, Onyx.

06-09-2004, 09:30 AM	#15
Clodfobble UNDER CONDITIONAL MITIGATION Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 20,012	and it was also you who accused Radar of "spying" on posts under a different name Jesus Christ guys, was I the only person who got the joke about Radar being Spivey? Do you REMEMBER Spivey's posts? It was a joke. See, watch: "Sometimes Lumberjim logs on as Perry5 just to stir the shit some more..." See how that was humor, because they're obviously different people but on an ironic level there are similarities? It's like every time Radar is involved in a thread the rest of you lose all sense of perspective.

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