Punishing the French

richlevy · 04-22-2003, 06:59 PM

Well, it looks like the White House, against the advice of the State Department, wants to punish France. The plan is to snub them in NATO and not invite them to global conferences, at least the ones the US chooses to show up for.

It looks like our foreign policy is once more on a testosterone-fueled journey into new heights of arrogance and condescencion.

Hubris thy name is Bush.

Undertoad · 04-22-2003, 08:13 PM

Hubris Boy is Bush? Damn, we impotant here!

xoxoxoBruce · 04-22-2003, 08:50 PM

Where did you get this plan, Rich?

Whit · 04-22-2003, 08:57 PM

     Did you hear Frenches Mustard's recent press release? They say the only thing they have in common with the french is that they're both yellow!
... sorry ...
     I've been keeping that one to myself for days... It had to be let out.
     By the by, I heard the statue that was pulled down wasn't of Saddam. It seems it was actually of one of his doubles!
     Sorry... I'll leave now.

Torrere · 04-22-2003, 10:25 PM

Once again, stupidity conquers all.

wolf · 04-23-2003, 12:06 AM

Why bother to punish the French? They are already French. Is that not sufficient?

smoothmoniker · 04-23-2003, 07:52 PM

rich ... links?

xoxoxoBruce · 04-23-2003, 08:21 PM

Poor Rich. Bet the black helicopters got him.

wolf · 04-23-2003, 10:29 PM

Your advertising piece for a gentleman who is likely to remain a minor candidate would probably have been better appreciated if you hadn't reposted in multiple forums.

We DO read here, you know ...

Skunks · 04-23-2003, 11:39 PM

At the very least, proofread when you copy/paste it.

ScottSolomon · 04-24-2003, 02:12 AM

Sorry,

I was a bit angry about something I read elsewhere and I felt the need to proselytize. Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa.

BTW:

I love freedom fries. I love eating them when I travel down the tree-lined freedom street [boulevard] and drive into the parking liberty [garage] building.

But anyway...

What really irks me about punishing the French is that they were only asking for the inspections to continue a few more months. They did not rule out force. They did not lie about their position. They did not try to spin up a scape-goat. Their sole violation of American trust is that they wanted to wait a little longer before we launched a war.

Since Iraq's vaunted bio and chem capabilities seem to have been a little exagerated, our entire justification for this war - and any qualms we might have with the French have even less ground.

How can the State department honestly attempt to enact punitive action against the French? This administration just seems to get worse and worse.

Whit · 04-24-2003, 10:14 AM

Quote:

Since Iraq's vaunted bio and chem capabilities seem to have been a little exagerated, our entire justification for this war - and any qualms we might have with the French have even less ground.

     This is a little off topic buy is anyone else as surprised by this? I thought for sure, that if there wasn't any really solid evidence we would still "find" some. What is the CIA doing? Maybe they need to recruit from the DC, LA or New Orleans police force to "find" evidence properly. I know of a couple of smaller police departments in Arkansas and Oklahoma that could find all the evidence anybody could ask for.
     Bitchy little jokes aside, I am surprised. Perhaps they'll find highly suggestive remanents in the rubble of a palace or two. It wouldn't take as much then, since they could say "the bulk" was blown up.

tw · 04-24-2003, 04:36 PM

War between the extremists Runsfeld, Ashcroft, and Wolfovich against Colin Powell has been ongoing since the silly China Spy Plane incident. Appears an offensive is now starting against Powell with a speech by Newt Gingrich attacking Powell for what amounts to accusations of incompetence.

These are forces inside the administration (The Vulcans) that Powell talks describes when defining Christie Whitman as a wind dummy.

xoxoxoBruce · 04-24-2003, 05:34 PM

Seems to me the french had more up their sleeve than a few months delay. There was an awful lot of chuckin' and jivein' going on in the background.
I've been hearing a time line on what and how weapons were destroyed in the last few days before hostilities started. Is this just spin? bullshit? I don't know.

Torrere · 04-24-2003, 09:15 PM

I have utter confidence in my government that the proper evidence will become manifest at the proper time.

04-22-2003, 06:59 PM	#1
richlevy King Of Wishful Thinking Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Philadelphia Suburbs Posts: 6,669	Punishing the French Well, it looks like the White House, against the advice of the State Department, wants to punish France. The plan is to snub them in NATO and not invite them to global conferences, at least the ones the US chooses to show up for. It looks like our foreign policy is once more on a testosterone-fueled journey into new heights of arrogance and condescencion. Hubris thy name is Bush. __________________ Exercise your rights and remember your obligations - VOTE! I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting. -- Barack Hussein Obama

04-22-2003, 08:50 PM	#3
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Where did you get this plan, Rich? __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-22-2003, 08:57 PM	#4
Whit Umm ... yeah. Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Arkansas, USA Posts: 949	Did you hear Frenches Mustard's recent press release? They say the only thing they have in common with the french is that they're both yellow! ... sorry ...      I've been keeping that one to myself for days... It had to be let out.      By the by, I heard the statue that was pulled down wasn't of Saddam. It seems it was actually of one of his doubles!      Sorry... I'll leave now. __________________ A friend will help you move. A true friend will help you move a body.

04-23-2003, 12:06 AM	#6
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Why bother to punish the French? They are already French. Is that not sufficient? __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-23-2003, 08:21 PM	#8
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Poor Rich. Bet the black helicopters got him. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-22-2003, 08:13 PM	#2
Undertoad Radical Centrist Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Cottage of Prussia Posts: 31,423	Hubris Boy is Bush? Damn, we impotant here!

04-22-2003, 10:25 PM	#5
Torrere a real smartass Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 1,121	Once again, stupidity conquers all.

04-23-2003, 07:52 PM	#7
smoothmoniker to live and die in LA Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,090	rich ... links?

04-23-2003, 10:29 PM	#9
wolf lobber of scimitars Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phila Burbs Posts: 20,774	Your advertising piece for a gentleman who is likely to remain a minor candidate would probably have been better appreciated if you hadn't reposted in multiple forums. We DO read here, you know ... __________________ wolf eht htiw og "Conspiracies are the norm, not the exception." --G. Edward Griffin The Creature from Jekyll Island High Priestess of the Church of the Whale Penis

04-23-2003, 11:39 PM	#10
Skunks I thought I changed this. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: western nowhere, ny Posts: 412	At the very least, proofread when you copy/paste it.

04-24-2003, 02:12 AM	#11
ScottSolomon Coronation Incarnate Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: On the skin of a tiny planet in an obscure galaxy in a lackluster corner of the universe. Posts: 94	Sorry, I was a bit angry about something I read elsewhere and I felt the need to proselytize. Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa. BTW: I love freedom fries. I love eating them when I travel down the tree-lined freedom street [boulevard] and drive into the parking liberty [garage] building. But anyway... What really irks me about punishing the French is that they were only asking for the inspections to continue a few more months. They did not rule out force. They did not lie about their position. They did not try to spin up a scape-goat. Their sole violation of American trust is that they wanted to wait a little longer before we launched a war. Since Iraq's vaunted bio and chem capabilities seem to have been a little exagerated, our entire justification for this war - and any qualms we might have with the French have even less ground. How can the State department honestly attempt to enact punitive action against the French? This administration just seems to get worse and worse. __________________ The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russell Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past. George Orwell

04-24-2003, 04:36 PM	#13
tw Read? I only know how to write. Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,933	War between the extremists Runsfeld, Ashcroft, and Wolfovich against Colin Powell has been ongoing since the silly China Spy Plane incident. Appears an offensive is now starting against Powell with a speech by Newt Gingrich attacking Powell for what amounts to accusations of incompetence. These are forces inside the administration (The Vulcans) that Powell talks describes when defining Christie Whitman as a wind dummy.

04-24-2003, 05:34 PM	#14
xoxoxoBruce The future is unwritten Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 71,105	Seems to me the french had more up their sleeve than a few months delay. There was an awful lot of chuckin' and jivein' going on in the background. I've been hearing a time line on what and how weapons were destroyed in the last few days before hostilities started. Is this just spin? bullshit? I don't know. __________________ The descent of man ~ Nixon, Friedman, Reagan, Trump.

04-24-2003, 09:15 PM	#15
Torrere a real smartass Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kirkland, WA Posts: 1,121	I have utter confidence in my government that the proper evidence will become manifest at the proper time.

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