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Old 03-07-2016, 11:39 AM   #1
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:27 PM   #2
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:33 PM   #3
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Ohhh, that one really pisses me off.* That's one of those ones that just adds to the little knot of anger deep inside.

Most of the stuff that you post in here punches up. That punches down.








*Just for clarity: the cartoon pisses me off, you do not.
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:41 PM   #4
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There's nothing I can do about any of that shit over there, but laugh.

There's nothing I can do about the illegal immigrants here, but laugh.

So, that's what I do.

Sorry it pissed you off.
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Old 03-07-2016, 04:46 PM   #5
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Old 03-07-2016, 05:08 PM   #6
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And for many - no work.

If I had to leave my country in order to survive, I'd probably want to try and get to somewhere where there was employment and a potential future, and maybe even people who didn't want to spit on me and kick me straight back out of their country.

Add 'Uncompromising hostility' to many of those countries.



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There are so many misconcenptions about refugees, and the media is saturated with anti-refugee and anti-immigrant rhetoric. So much of what I hear and read stuns me with its lack of empathy and humanity. If someone we knew, who we cared for were tomake a journey that long to save their families, moved heaven and earth and poured everything they had into making it happen, we'd admire them. But these strangers do what mos6 of us would find impossible, risk themselves in ways most of us cannot truly imagine and hopefully will never have to experience, and we dismiss them with a contemptuous nod at their money-grubbing motives.

I don't know how prevalent that sort of thing is over there, but here it's poisoned the whole fucking well. I get tired of seeing the world's most vulnerable people as the butt of the joke.

I shall now step off my high horse and cease contaminating this thread with teh serius
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Old 03-16-2016, 11:57 AM   #7
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I don't know how prevalent that sort of thing is over there, but here it's poisoned the whole fucking well. I get tired of seeing the world's most vulnerable people as the butt of the joke.
I have no such sympathy. I really don't care whether they are vulnerable or not. We know those immigrants (legal and illegal) are the source of most new companies. Innovation, creativity, the advancement of mankind, wealth, national strength, and growth come predominately from those immigrants.

Least productive citizens are those same people so racist as to demean immigrants (legal or illegal) so as to protect their egos.

Others see hate when viewing immigrants. Actually they see a threat since those immigrants will even become their bosses. I see America's greatest assets. But then I am not emotional like the many who promote hate - who are so poorly educated as to poison the well.
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Old 03-08-2016, 05:33 AM   #8
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Your country's stance is better than ours.

We should be assessing their refugee status not only as individuals; but, as a collective. If their numbers are sufficient to fight for their own country, even a long term struggle beginning with an underground war; then, we should support them there. Only if their numbers don't reach the threshold for eventual self determination should we bring them here.

We send mixed messages. We tell people that we'll help them whether they stay and fight for their own country; or, run away ... and leave it up to them. It undermines our objectives for that country by undermining those who stay and fight through our two faced intervention causing attrition as we tempt desertion from their cause.

We do this for our own domestic political correctness, to appease a populace that takes its entitlements for granted having become too far removed from what it took this country to get to where it is now.

From here, it looks like your country is lucky to have those with your perspective in the minority.
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Old 03-16-2016, 06:13 AM   #9
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Old 03-16-2016, 12:56 PM   #10
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I agree - but let's be clear: these are not 'immigrants' they are refugees. I call them the most vulnerable, because they are fleeing for their very survival, with what they can carry on their backs. They are the victims of a catastrophic civil war, whose plight is at least in part the result of western policies in their region. And even if that war had fuck all to do with us, as human beings we should at the very least be capable of empathising with their suffering, not mocking them for the crime of being desperate.
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Old 03-17-2016, 08:53 PM   #11
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They're mocked because they're running away.

Don't tell me you've never heard the expression: Joke 'em if they can't take a fuck.
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