You. RFN, 2014 - Page 9

footfootfoot · 05-02-2014, 03:33 PM

That's how I'd play it. He might have thought you were going to make a trillion headshots for your nascent character actor career, in DC, that hotbed of film making...

Gravdigr · 05-02-2014, 04:22 PM

If I reeeeeally wanted that particular photo, I'd offer him $25.

glatt · 05-02-2014, 05:26 PM

So he replied asking how much I would be willing to pay, and he explained that it's an unusual situation because the firm already paid him. But that he normally charges $200 for individual portrait sessions. And he pretty much made all the points that Foot did.

I was pretty surprised at how much he wrote. It was a really long email for somebody dickering over some fraction of $50.

I said I valued what he did, but the picture was only worth $20 to me. And I hoped that I wasn't offending him.

He hasn't responded yet. And $20 is even more than I wanted to spend, so I'm cheating myself. I should have offered $10, since that's about what it's worth to me.

Interesting negotiations over nothing.

glatt · 12-06-2014, 10:36 AM

Back in the spring, a photographer visiting my work took a nice portrait of me for the firm's phone list, and when I asked him if I could get a copy, he wanted $50 for a small jpeg. That was too much, I thought, and we couldn't agree on a price, so we each got nothing.

So when I learned that there was an artist who wanted to sketch portraits of people on post-its to include in a book, I thought that might be fun. He was doing a kickstarter, and for the $25 level I would get a portrait. I was in! I took a bunch of selfies, chose my favorite one, and sent it in to him.

That was in October, and I forgot all about it until I got a stiff cardboard envelope in the mail yesterday. There was a thank you note inside, with my post-it portrait stuck inside the card. I'm pleased with how it came out.

That phone list photographer wanted $50 for attaching a file to an email, and this artist only wanted $25 for a real drawing, and mailing it off. This is such a better deal!
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sexobon · 05-02-2014, 05:34 PM

Maybe he thinks you're coming on to him and are willing to barter. Let's see if he suggests further negotiations over dinner.

Spexxvet · 05-05-2014, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sexobon

Maybe he thinks you're coming on to him and are willing to barter. Let's see if he suggests further negotiations over dinner.

Or trade for a modelling session.

glatt · 05-05-2014, 10:13 AM

I haven't heard back from him. I guess when I told him $50 was too much, and he responded, offering to negotiate, he didn't like my $20 offer.

Oh well. It's a relief, actually. I think $20 was too much for a medium resolution digital image that he was already paid to make.

monster · 05-02-2014, 10:56 PM

Foot's points are valid BUT he has already been paid for the work. All those points should already have been taken into consideration when he priced the job. he's milking it. It wasn't a portrait session. How many images did he take to get that one? the price should reflect the time and effort it will take for him to find the file (?convert to appropriate format), and send it, plus a bonus in appreciation of his artistic talent because you wouldn't be interested if it were a crappy pic, but HR would still have been satisfied.

infinite monkey · 05-03-2014, 11:07 AM

*snort*

I never would have made it under a barter system. "How much is that pack of chewing gum? 100 bucks. or my right arm? Well, um...ok."

BigV · 05-05-2014, 11:59 AM

Can you get the already paid for image in file format from HR?

glatt · 05-05-2014, 08:22 PM

I posted it above. That's it. Low res.

lumberjim · 05-06-2014, 01:03 PM

not sure if this will last or even work.... but... i was bored. so... time lapse glatt:

glatt · 05-06-2014, 01:37 PM

Cool! Makes it look like I haven't changed much at all.

Lola Bunny · 05-06-2014, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt

Cool! Makes it look like I haven't changed much at all.

That's because you haven't changed much, basing on those pictures.

Gravdigr · 05-06-2014, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glatt

Cool! Makes it look like I haven't changed much at all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lola Bunny

That's because you haven't changed much, basing on those pictures.

05-02-2014, 03:33 PM	#1
footfootfoot To shreds, you say? Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: in the house and on the street-how many, many feet we meet! Posts: 18,449	That's how I'd play it. He might have thought you were going to make a trillion headshots for your nascent character actor career, in DC, that hotbed of film making... __________________ The internet is a hateful stew of vomit you can never take completely seriously. - Her Fobs

05-02-2014, 04:22 PM	#2
Gravdigr The Un-Tuckian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Central...KY that is Posts: 39,517	If I reeeeeally wanted that particular photo, I'd offer him $25. __________________ These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA, EPA, FBI, DEA, CDC, or FDIC. These statements are not intended to diagnose, cause, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. If you feel you have been harmed/offended by, or, disagree with any of the above statements or images, please feel free to fuck right off.

05-02-2014, 10:56 PM	#8
monster I hear them call the tide Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perpetual Chaos Posts: 30,852	Foot's points are valid BUT he has already been paid for the work. All those points should already have been taken into consideration when he priced the job. he's milking it. It wasn't a portrait session. How many images did he take to get that one? the price should reflect the time and effort it will take for him to find the file (?convert to appropriate format), and send it, plus a bonus in appreciation of his artistic talent because you wouldn't be interested if it were a crappy pic, but HR would still have been satisfied. __________________ The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity Amelia Earhart

05-05-2014, 11:59 AM	#10
BigV Goon Squad Leader Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 27,063	Can you get the already paid for image in file format from HR? __________________ Be Just and Fear Not.

05-06-2014, 01:03 PM	#12
lumberjim I can hear my ears Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 25,571	not sure if this will last or even work.... but... i was bored. so... time lapse glatt: __________________ This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality Embrace this moment, remember We are eternal, all this pain is an illusion ~MJKeenan

05-02-2014, 05:26 PM	#3
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	So he replied asking how much I would be willing to pay, and he explained that it's an unusual situation because the firm already paid him. But that he normally charges $200 for individual portrait sessions. And he pretty much made all the points that Foot did. I was pretty surprised at how much he wrote. It was a really long email for somebody dickering over some fraction of $50. I said I valued what he did, but the picture was only worth $20 to me. And I hoped that I wasn't offending him. He hasn't responded yet. And $20 is even more than I wanted to spend, so I'm cheating myself. I should have offered $10, since that's about what it's worth to me. Interesting negotiations over nothing.

12-06-2014, 10:36 AM	#4
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Back in the spring, a photographer visiting my work took a nice portrait of me for the firm's phone list, and when I asked him if I could get a copy, he wanted $50 for a small jpeg. That was too much, I thought, and we couldn't agree on a price, so we each got nothing. So when I learned that there was an artist who wanted to sketch portraits of people on post-its to include in a book, I thought that might be fun. He was doing a kickstarter, and for the $25 level I would get a portrait. I was in! I took a bunch of selfies, chose my favorite one, and sent it in to him. That was in October, and I forgot all about it until I got a stiff cardboard envelope in the mail yesterday. There was a thank you note inside, with my post-it portrait stuck inside the card. I'm pleased with how it came out. That phone list photographer wanted $50 for attaching a file to an email, and this artist only wanted $25 for a real drawing, and mailing it off. This is such a better deal!

05-02-2014, 05:34 PM	#5
sexobon I love it when a plan comes together. Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 9,793	Maybe he thinks you're coming on to him and are willing to barter. Let's see if he suggests further negotiations over dinner.

05-05-2014, 10:13 AM	#7
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I haven't heard back from him. I guess when I told him $50 was too much, and he responded, offering to negotiate, he didn't like my $20 offer. Oh well. It's a relief, actually. I think $20 was too much for a medium resolution digital image that he was already paid to make.

05-03-2014, 11:07 AM	#9
infinite monkey Person who doesn't update the user title Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 13,002	snort I never would have made it under a barter system. "How much is that pack of chewing gum? 100 bucks. or my right arm? Well, um...ok."

05-05-2014, 08:22 PM	#11
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	I posted it above. That's it. Low res.

05-06-2014, 01:37 PM	#13
glatt ™ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 27,717	Cool! Makes it look like I haven't changed much at all.

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