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10-02-2010, 09:04 AM | #121 | ||
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Precisely, Bruce; It takes a lot of hard work to maintain his story... all sorts of twisting and turning. He mentioned Hudson New York five times in his eagerness to discredit the story...
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Here it is in the AP, here it is in the AFP. Quote:
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We argued this same "hearsay is proof" reasoning with Saddam's WMDs. People seemed to confirm WMDs existed. That proved Saddam had WMDs. Seems means hearsay - nothing more. Reality - only hearsay from Mahmoud Zahar says Arafat started the Intifada ... oh ... after many years of Israeli provocation including arbitrary confiscation of Palestinian lands through the entire 1990s. Oh. Those west bank settlements just accidently got built there? Likud's agenda is not an accident no matter what you seem to believe. Or did Arafat also order west bank settlements? It seems to be true. Hudson New York speculation - whose purpose is to "Amplify dissident voices worldwide" (not report facts) - says one person's hearsay contradicts history and chronology. Even your own AP citation refuses to confirm what you believe. "More commonly cited is September 28, 2000, when Palestinian rioting erupted following Ariel Sharon's visit to the Temple Mount, an area known to Muslims as Al-Haram Al-Sharif." - Wikipedia. And again, this is not about Intifada II. You said the AP confirms? The AP does not even seem to confirm. Seems is the AP only reporting hearsay from one man. In cloth used to cover that myth, the seams are splitting. Seams have uncovered more hearsay contradicted by history, facts, intentions, and chronology. Last edited by tw; 10-02-2010 at 10:33 AM. |
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Please. The man didn't seem to say it. He said it. He's not just some guy, he's the co-founder of Hamas.
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10-02-2010, 11:55 AM | #124 | |
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UT, even your own sources will not confirm your beliefs. At what point does the word seem have a meaning? Your Hudson New York article that says Arafat created the Intifada is also not supported by facts, contradicted by chronology, and sourced by hearsay claims, and not confirmed by any of your citations. You have only one fact. He said something. And that something agrees with your long standing biases that say Jews are good; Palestinians are evil. Who started Intifada II? "More commonly cited is September 28, 2000, when Palestinian rioting erupted following Ariel Sharon's visit to the Temple Mount, an area known to Muslims as Al-Haram Al-Sharif." That is also undisputed fact as posted here after Sharon, et al did those things to spark violence. To subvert the Oslo Accords. They even encouraged the assassination of Rabin to subvert a peace process. But instead you blame Arafat on one man's hearsay? It seems so. |
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10-02-2010, 12:08 PM | #125 |
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As co-founder of Hamas, what is his motivation to say he was under direction of Arafat?
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10-02-2010, 06:47 PM | #126 | |
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Why would you even ask such a question? Hate is why extremism exists. Hate is why moderate Jews and Arabs could no longer remain moderates. Hate is what Sharon did on Temple Mount. Hate is what inspires the least intelligent humans to *know* how to think and what to do. A senior Saudi diplomat was blunt about how to defang Hamas. Ignore them. It could happen. But you just empowered Hamas. You gave Mahmoud Zahar credibility. You did exactly what Zahar needs you (and the world) to do to empower Hamas. Zero facts support Zahar's hearsay. Even the AP will not confirm such claims. Underlying hate feeds what Zahar needs. Zahar hopes most people think and do what you posted. Those myths only promote more hate. People giving credibility to unsubstantiated accusations and extremist leaders even makes recruiting easier. Ignore bogus accusations that are contradicted by so many facts and chronology. As the Saudi diplomat said, a best way to undermine Hamas is to ignore it. You did the opposite. Last edited by tw; 10-02-2010 at 06:56 PM. |
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10-02-2010, 08:05 PM | #127 |
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10-03-2010, 12:05 AM | #128 |
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I worked with moderates, I knew moderates, moderates were friends of mine. tw, you're no moderate.
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