Transparency - Not!

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by classicman

What an asshole you are for again tryin to defend calling me a racist instead of simply admitting you are totally wrong and, god forbid, apologizing.
You still don't get it. I take it very personal to be called that.
Off to ignore land you go - You may now kindly go fuck yourself.

Damn, dude.

Take a breath and read what I posted:

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Quite frankly, the only race issue I am beginning to see here is something approaching racial stereotyping (scary black men).

But to be clear, I am not suggesting the Republican videographer or anyone in this discussion is racist.

You obviously dont understand the difference between "approaching racial stereotyping," which by the way people do every day and for the most part is not with with racist intent, as opposed to calling you or anyone a racist, which I thought I made clear in my post that there was a distinction between the two, but that you evidently read it with a defensive closed mind.

When you suggest your daughter might feel threatened by black men in street clothes, looking mean and holding a club but with no evidence of intent to harm or threaten her, IMO, that is approaching racial stereotyping. Much like a woman walking down the street pulling her handbag closer to her body as a tough looking black man approaches her as opposed to a white guy in the same street clothes. It is not racist, it is a reaction based on racial stereotype.

You get defensive, overly sensitive and then overreact and get even more defensive and the nasty side comes out.

And that my friend, is your problem, not mine.

ps. I really hope you take a second look with a more open mind, but its your choice. If you want to apologize for overreacting, that is your choice as well. It doesnt really matter to me either way.

[classicman]

I read your last post thinking perhaps you had finally come to your senses and apologized.
I thought I would have missed it with you on ignore.
I should have known better.

Lets get this right - I'll try one last time.
My daughter will most likely feel, as I think most women would, threatened by men in street clothes,
looking mean, waving a club and shouting racial slurs (ie. looking threatening or like they may harm her.)
Much like a woman walking down the street pulling her handbag closer to her body as a tough looking man/men approach her.
It is not racist, it is wise of them, and it is reality.

Originally Posted by F&B

ps. If you want to apologize for me calling you a racist, that is your choice as well.

The odds of me apologizing for you calling me a racist are ZERO.

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

When the DOJ engages in race motivated decisions that exclude one race over another in choosing which cases to pursue we have a major problem in this country. I have not seen anything like this since the 60's where blacks were blatantly discriminated against. It is sickening.

Hey, I'm still trying to understand how the Bush DoJ filing charges of employment discrimination against City of Dayton, what you might characterize as a race motivated decision or the federal court making what you might characterize as a race motivated settlement, makes Holder, who had nothing to do with either action, the racist.

[TheMercenary]

Originally Posted by Fair&Balanced

Hey, I'm still trying to understand how the Bush DoJ filing charges of employment discrimination against City of Dayton, what you might characterize as a race motivated decision or the federal court making what you might characterize as a race motivated settlement, makes Holder, who had nothing to do with either action, the racist.

Holder drives the train. The result is nothing short of Affirmative Action, which is a racist program in and of itself. He could have stopped it, just like he did when he stopped the action against the voter intimidation case. Everything he does is suspect as being race motivated as evidenced by the testimony of the whistleblowers in the voter case.

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Holder drives the train. The result is nothing short of Affirmative Action, which is a racist program in and of itself. He could have stopped it, just like he did when he stopped the action against the voter intimidation case. Everything he does is suspect as being race motivated as evidenced by the testimony of the whistleblowers in the voter case.

In fact, he couldnt have just not enforced a court order w/o being in contempt of court, far different from making a determination to file a civil injunction as opposed to a criminal complaint in the NBP case.

Ah...I see.

Corrective affirmation action (short of hard quotas) is a racist program.

So does that make every every president since the 60s, the Supreme Court on numerous occasions, and much of the public racists? Or basically, anyone who doesnt share your position on affirmative action.

added:

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

Facts are facts. They stand alone. I have sited three cases where this DOJ has corrupted it authority and gone outside the law. All I can hope for it that Holder goes down in flames and Obama is a one term president.

Actually, the fact is that in the Dayton case, Holder acted within the law by enforcing the court order but you want him to go outside the law.

BTW, he didnt go outside the law in the NBP case either.

I'm so confused.

[Spexxvet]

Originally Posted by classicman

My daughter will most likely feel, as I think most women would, threatened by men in street clothes,
looking mean, waving a club and shouting racial slurs (ie. looking threatening or like they may harm her.)
Much like a woman walking down the street pulling her handbag closer to her body as a tough looking man/men approach her.

So your daughter isn't racist, she's sexist!

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by Spexxvet

So your daughter isn't racist, she's sexist!

You know what the Bible says. Sins of the father.....

Or maybe that just applies to sons.

Originally Posted by classicman

I read your last post thinking perhaps you had finally come to your senses and apologized.
I thought I would have missed it with you on ignore.
I should have known better.

Lets get this right - I'll try one last time.
My daughter will most likely feel, as I think most women would, threatened by men in street clothes,
looking mean, waving a club and shouting racial slurs (ie. looking threatening or like they may harm her.)
Much like a woman walking down the street pulling her handbag closer to her body as a tough looking man/men approach her.
It is not racist, it is wise of them, and it is reality.


The odds of me apologizing for you calling me a racist are ZERO.

So you still dont get the difference between racial stereotyping and racism.

I am secure in knowing what I posted and making it clear that I was not calling anyone a racist.

And you're still lashing out at me by falsely characterizing what I wrote rather than looking inward at your own defensiveness and insecurities. Oh well, too bad for you.

[TheMercenary]

[Fair&Balanced]

Originally Posted by TheMercenary

I am still confused with your doublespeak, claiming Holder acted outside the law when he didnt, but that you think he should act outside the law, because you dont the law?

[TheMercenary]

The self-described "most transparent administration in history" announced it will not "read out the dialogue from the meetings" on the debt and deficit negotiations.


[classicman]

Perhaps they're trying to be nice and not make EVERY "R" look like a total asshole for holding them hostage on SS when it has virtually NOTHING to do with this.

but thats just a guess.

[TheMercenary]

So our president storms out of a meeting over the debt. At least he is doing something.

[classicman]

Perhaps he figured that since the R's had done it a couple times ... ... ...
meh never mind.

[TheMercenary]

GE expected to report 13 percent rise in profit

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...76K7FO20110721

Obama jobs chief -- the CEO of GE -- pays no corporate taxes

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...porate-taxes/1

The GE-Obama affair, and Jeff Immelt’s harsh words

Except for maybe Google, no company has been closer and more in synch with the Obama administration than General Electric.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/...-s-harsh-words